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PostPosted: Sun Aug 06, 2006 12:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Assad orders Syrian troops on high alert
AFP

http://www.metimes.com/articles/normal.php?StoryID=20060801-081930-1763r

August 1, 2006

DAMASCUS -- Syrian President Bashar Al Assad ordered his forces to step up their readiness in the face of Israel's continuing offensive on Lebanon as the military marked Army Day Tuesday.

The official SANA news agency said that Assad ordered Syrian troops to "intensify their training efforts, be prepared, and increase their state of readiness in the light of the international situation and the challenges in the region."

"We must understand that every effort and each drop of sweat put into training now will save a drop of blood when the hour comes," Assad said in remarks reported in the Syrian press. "The fight will continue as long as our land is occupied and our rights are violated," he added. "Victory will be ours, with the help of God."

Assad issued the new alert orders Monday three weeks after Israel launched blistering attacks on its northern neighbor Lebanon following the July 12 capture by Shia Hizbullah militants of two of its soldiers in cross-border raids.

Syria, the former powerbroker in Lebanon, has come under fire from both Israel and the United States over its support for Hizbullah although Israel has said that it does not want to widen the conflict.

The increased state of alert also came as Israeli air operations over Lebanon inched closer to the Syrian border.

Warplanes had already targeted the main road from Beirut to Damascus, but Tuesday they also struck the road connecting northeastern Lebanon to Syria, Lebanese police said.

The village of Hermel, considered a Hizbullah stronghold about 15 kilometers (nine miles) from the Syrian border, was hit several times, they said, with the road to the Syrian town of Homs especially targeted.

Another road to Syria was bombed near the village of Qaa, southeast of Hermel.

On Monday Israeli jets attacked Lebanon's Masnaa border crossing with Syria for the third time in as many days, wounding four customs employees and a civilian, security sources said.

The Israelis said that the raid targeted a truck "transporting arms," with a spokesman emphasizing that "the attack was carried out inside Lebanese territory."

Syria has long been accused by Israel of offering more than mere moral support to Hizbullah. And while saying that it is not looking for a fight with Syria, Israel is still taking precautions in case it becomes embroiled in a war with the neighbor that it accuses of sponsoring the Shia militants.

"We have said on numerous occasions that we have no intention of an offensive toward Syria," defense minister Amir Peretz said Friday, after Israel mobilized more reservists for the fight against Hizbullah.

"We are doing all so that the situation on the front with Syria remains unchanged, and we are sending the message with the hope that it will be heard."

An explosives expert with the Israeli police said that a missile fired Friday by Hizbullah at the Israeli town of Afula nearly 50 kilometers south of Israel's northern border with Lebanon was Syrian-made.

Hizbullah has fired more than 1,500 rockets at Israel since July 12.

"If necessary we will use all the force necessary to defend Israel and complete our campaign," Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert said July 27. "The Syrians know we are on alert."

On Sunday Assad, who has been careful not to raise the level of rhetoric, accused Israel of "state terrorism" after an airstrike on the south Lebanese village of Qana killed 52 civilians, more than half of them children.

Israeli press reports last week were sanguine about the chances of the conflict spreading.

"The army attacked convoys [of weapons] as soon as they entered Lebanon [from Syria]," wrote an editorialist in the Ma'ariv daily. "The next time, that might happen five minutes earlier, in Syrian territory. Then it's only one step to war."
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 06, 2006 12:45 am    Post subject: How Can We Avoid War With Iran? Reply with quote

Read many good points from all members and I think we all agree Wars are bad for all side and biggest victims of any war innocent people on both side because there is no magic bullet or bomb which can target the guilty individuals or Taazi religious clerics.

Having said that the War between Israel and Hezbollah could have been avoided if Free World, G8 and UN leadership did not appease
pro Hezbollah Clerics in Iran in past 27 years and if G8 and UN did not ignore what Sakharov told us many years ago.

The connection Sakharov saw between the violation of human rights and international violence has become increasingly recognized. Scholars find that nations with broad and solid political rights (that is, democracies) have rarely if ever warred on one another. But repression at home often leads to conflict abroad. See this essay (S. Weart) and this Democratic Peace site (R.J. Rummel).

unfortunately modern warfare between Hezbollah Militia and Modern Israel army will have high civilian victims and total destruction of cities.
Based on what I know today I think In the recent war between Israel and Hezbollah the guilt level for innocent victims in both Lebanon and Israel are as follows:
1) Hezbollah radical Islam (highest guilt level)
2) Lebanon
3) Pro Hezbollah clerics in Iran who paid for Hezbollah mess
4) Syria

5) EU3, China, Russia & UN Appeasers
6) Kofi Annan
7) Israel
Cool US (lowest guilt level) (Carter ...)

The War can not be stopped unless Hezbollah accept surrender and Taazi regime in Iran is changed.

How Can We Avoid War With Iran?
We urged all freedom-loving Iranians both inside and outside Iran to participate in protest for freeing our homeland from Evil Pro Hezbollah Islamofascist occupiers of Iran to avoid another disaster and adventure of war by Islamofascist, if we the people can not Free Iran from Pro Hezbollah Islamofascist forces we should expect another major war soon, possible destruction of Iran like Lebanon in near future, the choice is ours to decide for actions and try our best to Free Iran before a new War starts.

3. The "War on Terror" which is a subset of "War on Taazi" UNWINNABLE and the world peace can not be achieved as long as the Unelected Taazi Islamists Terror and Torture Masters are in power in Iran. The TAAZI terror state and fear society can not create peace and stability.

4. To avoid War or Nuclear war or another disaster like Chernobyl nuclear disaster 20 years ago http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L18469848.htm, ( Animation of Nuclear Bunker Buster: Destructive impact on civilian population in Iran and beyond http://www.ucsusa.org/global_security/nuclear_weapons/nuclear-bunker-buster-rnep-animation.html )
our message to Iranian people inside Iran: General Strike Now, our message to Security Forces (Police, Pasdaran and Military) must act now for regime change and replacing it with Free society and Secular Democracy. The Iranian people have already spoken by boycotting Elections. The Armed forces must choose between defending and serving the people or serving Mullahs. This is up to armed and security forces to choose between SHAME and HONOR, serving Mullahs or their Sisters, Brothers, Fathers & Mothers who pay their salary.
To avoid war Iranian people of all ages do not have any choice other than be prepared to fight to free their homeland from Viruses of Iranian society whether the armed forces serve them or serve the enemy of freedom and free society. Iranian people should be prepared for final battle for freeing their homeland from TAAZI and must not forget that their FOREVER leader Cyrus the Great died in battlefield in 530 BC at the age of 60 and not in bed.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 06, 2006 1:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Cyrus,

There is a factor that has not been addressed in any potential internal regime change scenario.

The IRI's existing WMD potential.

In a case wherein the regime is in process of being removed by the people, there will be a period of uncertainty as to who has direct control of these weapons.

In such circumstances, that uncertainty poses an unacceptable risk to the global community, and to the Iranian population. This one fact in itself will necessitate external intervention to secure any and all WMD, production facilities... launch capability must be denied the regime.

Thus, regime change must come as a result of both internal and external actions by the international community simultaneously coordinated from the start..

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Anti-Hezbollah edict from Saudi cleric emphasizes divide remains among Muslims
The Associated Press, Aug. 5, 2006

http://www.tkb.org/NewsStory.jsp?storyID=133813

CAIRO, Egypt


A top Saudi Sunni cleric, whose ideas inspired Osama bin Laden, issued a religious edict Saturday disavowing the Shiite guerrilla group Hezbollah, evidence that a rift remains among Muslims over the fighting in Lebanon.

Hezbollah, which translates as "the party of God," is actually "the party of the devil," said Sheik Safar al-Hawali, whose radical views made the al-Qaida leader one of his followers in the past.

"Don't pray for Hezbollah," he said in the fatwa posted on his Web site.

The edict, which reflects the historical stand of strict Wahhabi doctrine viewing Shiite Muslims as heretics, follows a similar fatwa from another popular Saudi cleric Sheik Abdullah bin Jibreen two weeks into the conflict with Israel.

"It is not acceptable to support this rejectionist party (Hezbollah), and one should not fall under its command, or pray for its victory," bin Jibreen said at the time. That fatwa set off a maelstrom across the Arab world, with other leaders and people at the grass roots level imploring Muslims to put aside differences to support the fight against Israel.

There have been daily demonstrations in support of Hezbollah around the region, including in predominantly Sunni and generally pro-western countries like Jordan.

Even the Saudi government, which initially condemned Hezbollah for sparking the fighting by kidnapping two Israeli soldiers in "uncalculated adventures," backed down and said it warned the United States the region would be headed toward war unless Washington halted the Israeli attacks.

On Saturday, Saudi Arabia's King Abdullah talked with Arab League Secretary General Amr Moussa about "efforts to stop the Israeli aggression," SPA, the official Saudi news agency, reported.

Last week, al-Qaida deputy leader Ayman al-Zawahri issued a video tape that urged all Muslims everywhere to rise up in holy war against Israel and join the fighting in Lebanon and Gaza.

Mohammed Habib, deputy leader of Egypt's largest Islamic Sunni group, the outlawed Muslim Brotherhood, immediately rejected al-Hawali's new religious edict, saying Hezbollah is defending "the whole Islamic nation."

Al-Hawali is receiving medical treatment in Jeddah and could not be reached for comment.

In remarks published Saturday, Kuwait's prime minister, Sheik Nasser Al Mohammed Al Sabah, also warned that if the conflict does not end soon, it could give rise to new radicals.

"I believe that if this Israeli war on Lebanon goes on, it could contribute to creating new terrorists, and that of course would pose a new danger in the area," he told Egyptian magazine el-Mussawar.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 06, 2006 2:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like Cyrus’ list in order of culpability. It puts things in better perspective. If I may, I’d like to tweak that list around just a little and offer my own opinion, followed by a very brief description of why. From highest culpability to lowest:

1. Religion in general, and Islam specifically – Religion always acts as a dividing force within humanity. Islam is the foremost precursor for the hate seen in the Middle East, and the grandfather of all of these messes.

2. Taazi Mullah Regime of Tehran – The evil masterminds behind Hezbollah. The reason why Hezbollah even exists. The current financial backers and weapon suppliers of the terrorists. The highest decision makers of Hezbollah.

3. Hezbollah itself – The local perpetrators of terrorism, as ordered by the Taazi Mullahs of Iran. The ignorant foot soldiers that wish to die for a Taazi God.

4. Human ignorance – The vast number of un-thinking people that are too gullible to doubt what they are told by those who would manipulate them. Human ignorance is the reason why numbers 1-3 on the list have been able to carry out their agendas.

5. Worldwide collaborators of the Taazi Mullah Regime - The various nations of the world who have frowned upon the Taazis publicly, yet have continued to do business with them because of short sighted economic benefits. The nations who have sold their souls to the devil. Those nations know who they are.

6. Syria – The collaborators of Hezbollah and Iran, and facilitators of arms shipments to Hezbollah. The most significant pro-Taazi Mullah nation outside of Iran.

7. The United Nations - Once an impotent entity full of hot air, always an impotent entity full of hot air. This impotent organization should have acted to disarm a group like Hezbollah long ago.

8. Israel – It has a right to defend itself. However, it ought to exercise its right with less carelessness of Lebanese civilian casualties.

9. Lebanon – It makes the list, because it has allowed a terrorist entity like Hezbollah to come in and set up camp. However, it is last on the list, because the reason for the above has more to do with its own weakness and impotence than with its true will to house Hezbollah. I am afraid that soon its previously negligible will to house this monster shall become much more significant if the current events continue. Lebanon also happens to be the biggest victim of this war.
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AmirN wrote:
I like Cyrus’ list in order of culpability. It puts things in better perspective. If I may, I’d like to tweak that list around just a little and offer my own opinion, followed by a very brief description of why. From highest culpability to lowest:

1. Religion in general, and Islam specifically – Religion always acts as a dividing force within humanity. Islam is the foremost precursor for the hate seen in the Middle East, and the grandfather of all of these messes.

2. Taazi Mullah Regime of Tehran – The evil masterminds behind Hezbollah. The reason why Hezbollah even exists. The current financial backers and weapon suppliers of the terrorists. The highest decision makers of Hezbollah.

3. Hezbollah itself – The local perpetrators of terrorism, as ordered by the Taazi Mullahs of Iran. The ignorant foot soldiers that wish to die for a Taazi God.

4. Human ignorance – The vast number of un-thinking people that are too gullible to doubt what they are told by those who would manipulate them. Human ignorance is the reason why numbers 1-3 on the list have been able to carry out their agendas.

5. Worldwide collaborators of the Taazi Mullah Regime - The various nations of the world who have frowned upon the Taazis publicly, yet have continued to do business with them because of short sighted economic benefits. The nations who have sold their souls to the devil. Those nations know who they are.

6. Syria – The collaborators of Hezbollah and Iran, and facilitators of arms shipments to Hezbollah. The most significant pro-Taazi Mullah nation outside of Iran.

7. The United Nations - Once an impotent entity full of hot air, always an impotent entity full of hot air. This impotent organization should have acted to disarm a group like Hezbollah long ago.

8. Israel – It has a right to defend itself. However, it ought to exercise its right with less carelessness of Lebanese civilian casualties.

9. Lebanon – It makes the list, because it has allowed a terrorist entity like Hezbollah to come in and set up camp. However, it is last on the list, because the reason for the above has more to do with its own weakness and impotence than with its true will to house Hezbollah. I am afraid that soon its previously negligible will to house this monster shall become much more significant if the current events continue. Lebanon also happens to be the biggest victim of this war.


Dear Amir,
I like your list better .
Regards,
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 11:11 am    Post subject: Occupiers Of Iran was behind Hezbollah-Israel war Reply with quote

Exclusive: Pro Hezbollah Occupiers Of Iran was behind Hezbollah-Israel war
Wed. 16 Aug 2006
Iran Focus

http://www.iranfocus.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=8255

London, Aug. 16 – Iran masterminded the July 12 attack on an Israeli military squad by the Lebanese militia Hezbollah which ignited a major military offensive against the group by the Jewish state, Iran Focus has learnt.

A well-placed source inside the clerical establishment told Iran Focus that prior to the start of hostilities Tehran dispatched several top officials including the chief of the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps (IRGC) to attend a summit in Syria which took place on July 4 and focused on ways to upset the regional balance in the Middle East.

Hassan Khomeini, the grandson of the founder of the Islamic Republic, travelled to the Syrian capital last month, staying in Damascus between July 1 and 6 under the cover of pilgrimage to a revered Shiite Muslim shrine.

Simultaneously, several top Hezbollah officials arrived in Damascus for what they claimed was to meet Hassan Khomeini.

On July 4, the secretary general of Iran’s Supreme National Security Council (SNSC) Ali Larijani made an unannounced trip to the Syrian capital.

The Supreme Commander of the IRGC Major General Yahya Rahim Safavi and the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of the Staff of the Islamic Republic’s armed forces Major General Hassan Firouzabadi also secretly travelled to Damascus to attend the summit.

The summit, which was held at the Iranian embassy in Damascus, was also attended by top Syrian security officials and Iran’s ambassador to Syria Hassan Akhtari. The radical Shiite cleric was formerly the chief of staff of Iran’s Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.

During the summit a politico-military strategy was drawn up for a possible attack by Hezbollah fighters against Israel to trigger a regional war, and the militia was called on to prepare for an offensive.

Days later, on July 11, following a round of talks in Brussels with European Union foreign policy chief Javier Solana on Iran’s nuclear standoff with the West, Larijani made a second unannounced to trip to Damascus. There he met and held talks with Syrian Vice-President Farouk al-Shara, making the final arrangements for the actions that were to follow.

Finally, while meeting a top Hezbollah official in the Iranian embassy, Larijani gave the order for the Lebanese militia to mount the cross-border attack on the Jewish state, triggering the 34-day war which has left 157 Israelis and 1,110 Lebanese dead.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 12:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A Path to Lasting Peace


Secretary Condoleezza Rice
Op-Ed
The Washington Post
August 16, 2006

For the past month the United States has worked urgently to end the violence
that Hezbollah and its sponsors have imposed on the people of Lebanon and
Israel. At the same time, we have insisted that a truly effective cease-fire
requires a decisive change from the status quo that produced this war. Last
Friday we took an important step toward that goal with the unanimous passage of
U.N. Resolution 1701. Now the difficult, critical task of implementation
begins.

The agreement we reached has three essential components:

First, it puts in place a full cessation of hostilities. We also insisted on
the unconditional release of the abducted Israeli soldiers. Hezbollah must
immediately cease its attacks on Israel, and Israel must halt its offensive
military operations in Lebanon, while reserving the right of any sovereign
state to defend itself. This agreement went into effect on Monday, after the
Israeli and Lebanese cabinets agreed to its conditions.

Second, this resolution will help the democratic government of Lebanon expand
its sovereign authority. The international community is imposing an embargo on
all weapons heading into Lebanon without the government's consent. We are also
enhancing UNIFIL, the current U.N. force in Lebanon. The new UNIFIL will have a
robust mandate, better equipment and as many as 15,000 soldiers -- a sevenfold
increase from its current strength. Together with this new international force,
the Lebanese Armed Forces will deploy to the south of the country to protect
the Lebanese people and prevent armed groups such as Hezbollah from
destabilizing the area. As this deployment occurs, Israel will withdraw behind
the "Blue Line" and a permanent cease-fire will take hold.

Finally, this resolution clearly lays out the political principles to secure a
lasting peace: no foreign forces, no weapons and no authority in Lebanon other
than that of the sovereign Lebanese government. These principles represent a
long-standing international consensus that has been affirmed and reaffirmed for
decades -- but never fully implemented. Now, for the first time, the
international community has put its full weight behind a practical political
framework to help the Lebanese government realize these principles, including
the disarmament of all militias operating on its territory.

The implementation of Resolution 1701 will not only benefit Lebanon and Israel;
it also has important regional implications. Simply put: This is a victory for
all who are committed to moderation and democracy in the Middle East -- and a
defeat for those who wish to undermine these principles with violence,
particularly the governments of Syria and Iran.

While the entire world has spent the past month working for peace, the Syrian
and Iranian regimes have sought to prolong and intensify the war that Hezbollah
started. The last time this happened, 10 years ago, the United States brokered
a cease-fire between Israel and Syria. The game of diplomacy was played by
others, over the heads of the Lebanese. Now Syria no longer occupies Lebanon,
and the international community is helping the Lebanese government create the
conditions of lasting peace -- full independence, complete sovereignty,
effective democracy and a weakened Hezbollah with fewer opportunities to rearm
and regroup. Once implemented, this will be a strategic setback for the Syrian
and Iranian regimes.

The agreement we reached last week is a good first step, but it is only a first
step. Though we hope that it will lead to a permanent cease-fire, no one should
expect an immediate stop to all acts of violence. This is a fragile cease-fire,
and all parties must work to strengthen it. Our diplomacy has helped end a war.
Now comes the long, hard work to secure the peace.

Looking ahead, our most pressing challenge is to help the hundreds of thousands
of displaced people within Lebanon to return to their homes and rebuild their
lives. This reconstruction effort will be led by the government of Lebanon, but
it will demand the generosity of the entire world.

For our part, the United States is helping to lead relief efforts for the
people of Lebanon, and we will fully support them as they rebuild their
country. As a first step, we have increased our immediate humanitarian
assistance to $50 million. To secure the gains of peace, the Lebanese people
must emerge from this conflict with more opportunities and greater prosperity.

Already, we hear Hezbollah trying to claim victory. But others, in Lebanon and
across the region, are asking themselves what Hezbollah's extremism has really
achieved: hundreds of thousands of people displaced from their homes. Houses
and infrastructure destroyed. Hundreds of innocent lives lost. The blame of the
world for causing this war.

Innocent people in Lebanon, in Israel and across the Middle East have suffered
long enough at the hands of extremists. It is time to overcome old patterns of
violence and secure a just, lasting and comprehensive peace. This is our goal,
and now we have laid out the steps to achieve it. Our policy is ambitious, yes,
and difficult to achieve. But it is right. It is realistic. And ultimately, it
is the only effective path to a more hopeful future.


Released on August 16, 2006

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شیمون پرز گفت حزب الله سالانه بیش از یکصد میلیون دلار از جمهوری اسلامی کمک مالی دریافت می کند [ ساعت پيش ۲:۱۱ ]
با برقراری آتش بس در لبنان، مردم در حال بازگشت به خانه هایشان هستند. میزان خسارات درگیری های اخیر در لبنان بیش از سه میلیارد دلار برآورد شده است. افراد حزب الله بلافاصله پس از برقراری آتش بس، به میان مردم رفته و میزان خسارات را ثبت کردند. شیخ حسن نصرالله قول داده است در بازسازی لبنان کمک کند و تعهد کرد پول اجاره و خرید وسایل خانه غیرنظامیان را نیز تامین کند. این در حالی است که شیمون پرز معاون نخست وزیر اسرائیل روز سه شنبه در واشنگتن گفت: حزب الله لبنان هر سال بیش از صدمیلیون دلار از ایران کمک مالی دریافت می کند. در همین حال نبیل قاووق یکی از رهبران حزب الله در جنوب لبنان روز چهارشنبه هنگامی که برای بازبینی خسارات به جنوب لبنان سفر کرده بود، به خبرگزاری رویتر گفت: « ما از مردم خود، اعراب و جهان اسلام و از همه کشورهایی که در کنار مردم لبنان ایستادند تشکر می کنیم و بیش از همه از ایران، سوریه و ونزوئلا». آقای قاووق گفت: پس از آن که دشمن شکست خود، زمان پیروزی ما رسید. شیمون پرز اما معتقد است حزب الله چاره ای جز توقف جنگ نداشت. تارا عاطفي
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 5:41 pm    Post subject: Hezbollah Gift Reply with quote

Hezbollah Gift

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/060816/481/be1c8842c9c7416bac1cd81f2bdbebcf

A broken picture of Iran's late Ayatollah Khomeini is seen after it was placed outside a destroyed apartment in the southern suburbs of Beirut, Wednesday, Aug. 16, 2006 Tens of thousands of people have returned to their shattered villages in eastern and southern Lebanon as well as Beirut's southern suburbs to find their homes either damaged or totally destroyed in a month of fighting between Israel and Hezbollah. (AP Photo/Kevin Frayer)
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 7:53 pm    Post subject: Perhaps you have another question?" Reply with quote

Dears,
Is not this true?
What the politicaly correct usualy leftists have got to say?
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Perhaps you have another question?"

Even those who aren't particularly sympathetic to Bibi Netanyahu could get a good measure of satisfaction from his interview with the British Television this morning. I guess it can be attributed to his days of studying history at Harvard.

The interviewer asked him: "How come so many more Lebanese have been killed in this conflict than Israelis?"

Natanyahu: "Are you sure that you want to start asking in that direction?"

Interviewer: Why not?

Natanyahu: "Because in World War II more Germans were killed than British and Americans combined, but there is no doubt in anyone's mind that the war was caused by Germany's aggression. And in response to the German blitz on London, the British wiped out the entire city of Dresden, burning to death more German civilians than the number of people killed in Hiroshima.


Moreover, I could remind you that in 1944, when the R.A.F. tried to bomb the Gestapo Headquarters in Copenhagen, some of the bombs missed their target and fell on a Danish children's hospital, killing 83 little children .

Perhaps you have another question?"

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Also see:

http://news.sky.com/skynews/video/videoplayer/0,,31200-netanyahu_030806_1430,00.html
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http://blogs.washingtontimes.com/insiderpolitics/?p=588#comment-3747

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The article and the question itself misses the whole root of the problem.

Until the Syrian and Iranian governments are removed from power by the collective will and action of the international community, we’ll be trying to put out brush fires one after another till the fire-bugs are no longer able to play with matches.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cyrus wrote:
AmirN wrote:
I like Cyrus’ list in order of culpability. It puts things in better perspective. If I may, I’d like to tweak that list around just a little and offer my own opinion, followed by a very brief description of why. From highest culpability to lowest:

1. Religion in general, and Islam specifically – Religion always acts as a dividing force within humanity. Islam is the foremost precursor for the hate seen in the Middle East, and the grandfather of all of these messes.

2. Taazi Mullah Regime of Tehran – The evil masterminds behind Hezbollah. The reason why Hezbollah even exists. The current financial backers and weapon suppliers of the terrorists. The highest decision makers of Hezbollah.

3. Hezbollah itself – The local perpetrators of terrorism, as ordered by the Taazi Mullahs of Iran. The ignorant foot soldiers that wish to die for a Taazi God.

4. Human ignorance – The vast number of un-thinking people that are too gullible to doubt what they are told by those who would manipulate them. Human ignorance is the reason why numbers 1-3 on the list have been able to carry out their agendas.

5. Worldwide collaborators of the Taazi Mullah Regime - The various nations of the world who have frowned upon the Taazis publicly, yet have continued to do business with them because of short sighted economic benefits. The nations who have sold their souls to the devil. Those nations know who they are.

6. Syria – The collaborators of Hezbollah and Iran, and facilitators of arms shipments to Hezbollah. The most significant pro-Taazi Mullah nation outside of Iran.

7. The United Nations - Once an impotent entity full of hot air, always an impotent entity full of hot air. This impotent organization should have acted to disarm a group like Hezbollah long ago.

8. Israel – It has a right to defend itself. However, it ought to exercise its right with less carelessness of Lebanese civilian casualties.

9. Lebanon – It makes the list, because it has allowed a terrorist entity like Hezbollah to come in and set up camp. However, it is last on the list, because the reason for the above has more to do with its own weakness and impotence than with its true will to house Hezbollah. I am afraid that soon its previously negligible will to house this monster shall become much more significant if the current events continue. Lebanon also happens to be the biggest victim of this war.


Dear Amir,
I like your list better .
Regards,
Cyrus


I believe Lebanon should be #2 or 3, because they are supporter and enabler of a terrorist organization....I guess they have enjoyed their occupation by Hezbollah so much... that they want to keep them forever.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 10:54 am    Post subject: Officials: U.S. Blocked Missiles to Hezbollah Reply with quote

Officials: U.S. Blocked Missiles to Hezbollah

August 18, 2006
USA Today
John Diamond

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2006-08-17-iran-missiles_x.htm

WASHINGTON -- The United States blocked an Iranian cargo plane's flight to Syria last month after intelligence analysts concluded it was carrying sophisticated missiles and launchers to resupply Hezbollah in southern Lebanon, two U.S. intelligence officials say.

Eight days after Hezbollah's war with Israel began, U.S. diplomats persuaded Turkey and Iraq to deny the plane permission to cross their territory to Damascus, a transfer point for arms to Hezbollah, the officials said.

The episode was detailed by one U.S. intelligence official who saw a report on the incident. It was confirmed by a U.S. official from a second intelligence agency and by a diplomat with a foreign government. They did not want their names used because they were not authorized to discuss the incident.

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Their account illustrates the quiet support the United States gave Israel during the 34-day war, even enlisting help from Muslim nations where acting on Israel's behalf is politically anathema.

Israel and President Bush have accused the Shiite-dominated government of Iran, Hezbollah's primary supplier, of shipping the Shiite militia increasingly sophisticated weapons by way of Syria.

The Iraq and Turkish governments would not discuss the incident. Iran's United Nations mission denied trying to send Hezbollah weapons. The intelligence officials did not provide reports, satellite photos or other evidence to corroborate the sequence of events. Their account could not be independently verified.

The officials described this timeline:

•July 15: Three days after the war began, a source tipped off U.S. intelligence about an imminent shipment of missiles from Iran to Hezbollah.

•July 19: A spy satellite photographed Iranian crews loading three missile launchers and eight crates, each normally used to carry a Chinese-designed C-802 Noor missile, aboard a transport plane at Mehrabad air base near Tehran. Israel says Hezbollah fired a C-802, a precision-guided anti-ship cruise missile, at an Israeli warship off Lebanon's coast on July 14.

•July 20: The Ilyushin Il-76 transport plane left for Damascus, but Iraqi air-traffic controllers denied it permission to enter Iraq's airspace. The Iranian flight crew then requested permission to fly over Turkey. Turkish controllers granted permission — but only if the plane would land for an inspection. The plane returned to Tehran, where the military cargo was unloaded.

•July 22: The plane flew humanitarian aid to Damascus after stopping for inspection in Turkey.

Though the missiles were not visible in the satellite photos, the launchers and specialized crates with distinctive shapes allowed U.S. analysts to identify the missile type, the intelligence officials said.

Asked about the account during an interview Tuesday, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said, "We work on these kinds of things all the time." But she added, "I can't comment on specific cases."
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