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PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 12:05 pm    Post subject: Count down for Israel?! Reply with quote

Election of Barak Obama as president of United States, officially marked the end of an era to reflect the success of black Americans in gaining their equal position in American society and civil rights. This matter has created a lot of expectations for change in policies of United States through out the world but whether this is justifiable or not, shall remain to be seen. The message of President Obama to Iranians which seems to have given some hope to some Iranians, in fact is completely inline with strategic policies of US and its allied governments in the region. Interestingly enough, President Peres of Israel also sent a message for Iranian people which indicates deep differences between the policies and ideals of the two governments. While President Obama directs Iranian as "people of Islamic republic of Iran" and "government of Islamic republic of Iran" with clear assertion on "Islamic identity" of Iranians, President Peres, expresses his hope for Iranians to get rid of their Islamic government!

After a couple of years from the time when President Ahmadinejad of Islamic Republic in Iran spoke about wiping Israel of the map for the first time, one of American spy agencies, CIA, in a report to US Congress, has indicated that Israel will be erased of the map within next 20 years! Somehow, this report has leaked out and the first news agency to get its hands on it, has been Iran Press TV! My search for the original information turned to be futile but I could not find anything from CIA which denies that either and considering that this news has been in circulation since about a week ago, one tends to accept the authenticity of the report! So, here it comes! We are getting into next stage of implementing "prophecy" of President Ahmadinejad and miraclously, CIA seem to be on the same side with him in "believing" that prophecy! This is just in first glance, we shall see what will come out in next few weeks.

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/269241
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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CIA report: Israel will fall in 20 years
Fri, 13 Mar 2009
Franklin Lamb
A study conducted by the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) has cast doubt over Israel’s survival beyond the next 20 years.

The CIA report predicts “an inexorable movement away from a two-state to a one-state solution, as the most viable model based on democratic principles of full equality that sheds the looming specter of colonial Apartheid while allowing for the return of the 1947/1948 and 1967 refugees. The latter being the precondition for sustainable peace in the region.”

The study, which has been made available only to a certain number of individuals, further forecasts the return of all Palestinian refugees to the occupied territories, and the exodus of two million Israeli - who would move to the US in the next fifteen years.

“There is over 500,000 Israelis with American passports and more than 300,000 living in the area of just California,” International lawyer Franklin Lamb said in an interview with Press TV on Friday, adding that those who do not have American or western passport, have already applied for them.

“So I think the handwriting at least among the public in Israel is on the wall…[which] suggests history will reject the colonial enterprise sooner or later,” Lamb stressed.

He said CIA, in its report, alludes to the unexpectedly quick fall of the apartheid government in South Africa and recalls the disintegration of the Soviet Union in the early 1990s, suggesting the end to the dream of an ‘Israeli land’ would happen ‘way sooner’ than later.

The study further predicts the return of over one and a half million Israelis to Russia and other parts of Europe, and denotes a decline in Israeli births whereas a rise in the Palestinian population.

Lamb said given the Israeli conduct toward the Palestinians and the Gaza strip in particular, the American public — which has been voicing its protest against Tel Aviv’s measures in the last 25 years — may ‘not take it anymore’.

Some members of the US Senate Intelligence Committee have been informed of the report.


http://www.altermedia.info/civil-rig...comment-page-1

This matter is already being taken seriously by most Israelies and different local radio talk shows have been discussing it during last few days. Franklin Lamb in part of his report says:
“There is over 500,000 Israelis with American passports and more than 300,000 living in the area of just California,” International lawyer Franklin Lamb said in an interview with Press TV on Friday, adding that those who do not have American or western passport, have already applied for them."

indicating seriousness of this situation and makes it clear that many inside Israel are getting ready to leave!

Destruction of Israel has been seeked openly not only by some Americans but also by many jews who have had no problem displaying their own feelings and views in this regard through out many years. This matter seems to have been part of the agenda of western allies after dismantling of Soviet Union to reward Islamic allies in that process but, in my view, there are also other agendas behind that too! We have to see what political and economic implications will this matter have in the region and in the world and for that, we should wait a bit longer.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 11:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Toofaan wrote:
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CIA report: Israel will fall in 20 years
Fri, 13 Mar 2009
Franklin Lamb
A study conducted by the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) has cast doubt over Israel’s survival beyond the next 20 years.

The CIA report predicts “an inexorable movement away from a two-state to a one-state solution, as the most viable model based on democratic principles of full equality that sheds the looming specter of colonial Apartheid while allowing for the return of the 1947/1948 and 1967 refugees. The latter being the precondition for sustainable peace in the region.”

The study, which has been made available only to a certain number of individuals, further forecasts the return of all Palestinian refugees to the occupied territories, and the exodus of two million Israeli - who would move to the US in the next fifteen years.

“There is over 500,000 Israelis with American passports and more than 300,000 living in the area of just California,” International lawyer Franklin Lamb said in an interview with Press TV on Friday, adding that those who do not have American or western passport, have already applied for them.

“So I think the handwriting at least among the public in Israel is on the wall…[which] suggests history will reject the colonial enterprise sooner or later,” Lamb stressed.

He said CIA, in its report, alludes to the unexpectedly quick fall of the apartheid government in South Africa and recalls the disintegration of the Soviet Union in the early 1990s, suggesting the end to the dream of an ‘Israeli land’ would happen ‘way sooner’ than later.

The study further predicts the return of over one and a half million Israelis to Russia and other parts of Europe, and denotes a decline in Israeli births whereas a rise in the Palestinian population.

Lamb said given the Israeli conduct toward the Palestinians and the Gaza strip in particular, the American public — which has been voicing its protest against Tel Aviv’s measures in the last 25 years — may ‘not take it anymore’.

Some members of the US Senate Intelligence Committee have been informed of the report.


http://www.altermedia.info/civil-rig...comment-page-1

This matter is already being taken seriously by most Israelies and different local radio talk shows have been discussing it during last few days. Franklin Lamb in part of his report says:
“There is over 500,000 Israelis with American passports and more than 300,000 living in the area of just California,” International lawyer Franklin Lamb said in an interview with Press TV on Friday, adding that those who do not have American or western passport, have already applied for them."

indicating seriousness of this situation and makes it clear that many inside Israel are getting ready to leave!

Destruction of Israel has been seeked openly not only by some Americans but also by many jews who have had no problem displaying their own feelings and views in this regard through out many years. This matter seems to have been part of the agenda of western allies after dismantling of Soviet Union to reward Islamic allies in that process but, in my view, there are also other agendas behind that too! We have to see what political and economic implications will this matter have in the region and in the world and for that, we should wait a bit longer.


I am not surprised that the great majority of well educated secular Israelis who love freedom, peace and free society are getting tired of all the brain dead backward religious fanatics who happens to be small minority (less than 15%). I am sure the secular Israelis are planning to leave if they have not already left…. The small minority religious people (fanatics) in the greater Middle East (Islamists, Saudi Arabian, Hamas, Hezbollah, Pakistan, 15% of Israelis , Mullahs in Iran ..) are the biggest trouble makers in the region and they are biggest obstacle to progress, peace and creating the big mess as we see ….

Due to fear of extreme left in Soviet Union and for short term interest the G8 helped Islamists to come to power in past 30 years and created the Middle East mess …

If this report is true and Israel disappear in next 20 years then freedom-loving Iranians should be very concerned and it is not in the long term interest of Free Iran, Secular Democracy, Free Society, Secular Palestinian and greater Middle East …

If the regime in Iran does not change in near future then the Middle East mess will expand and we should expect major future war ….
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 2:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Radio Israel stopping all shortwave broadcasts from tomorrow. This matter applies to all shortwave broadcasts of radio Israel including Persian programs, according to following:

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IBA ENDS MOST SHORTWAVE TRANSMISSION

After some 60 years shortwave broadcasts ended on March 31st 2008 except for Persian to Iran. Despite many complaints, the IBA made its decision as a cost cutting measure. Emergency financial provision to continue one daily broadcast in Persian was made by the government.

Kol Israel broadcasts may now be heard only via the internet.


source: radio Israel and: http://www.israelradio.org/
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Saudi gives Israel clear skies to attack Iran.


http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article7148555.ece



Saudi Arabia gives Israel clear skies to attack Iranian nuclear sites

Hugh Tomlinson


Saudi Arabia has conducted tests to stand down its air defences to enable Israeli jets to make a bombing raid on Iran’s nuclear facilities, The Times can reveal.

In the week that the UN Security Council imposed a new round of sanctions on Tehran, defence sources in the Gulf say that Riyadh has agreed to allow Israel to use a narrow corridor of its airspace in the north of the country to shorten the distance for a bombing run on Iran.

To ensure the Israeli bombers pass unmolested, Riyadh has carried out tests to make certain its own jets are not scrambled and missile defence systems not activated. Once the Israelis are through, the kingdom’s air defences will return to full alert.

The Saudis have given their permission for the Israelis to pass over and they will look the other way,” said a US defence source in the area. “They have already done tests to make sure their own jets aren’t scrambled and no one gets shot down. This has all been done with the agreement of the [US] State Department.”

Sources in Saudi Arabia say it is common knowledge within defence circles in the kingdom that an arrangement is in place if Israel decides to launch the raid. Despite the tension between the two governments, they share a mutual loathing of the regime in Tehran and a common fear of Iran’s nuclear ambitions. “We all know this. We will let them [the Israelis] through and see nothing,” said one.

The four main targets for any raid on Iran would be the uranium enrichment facilities at Natanz and Qom, the gas storage development at Isfahan and the heavy-water reactor at Arak. Secondary targets include the lightwater reactor at Bushehr, which could produce weapons-grade plutonium when complete.

The targets lie as far as 1,400 miles (2,250km) from Israel; the outer limits of their bombers’ range, even with aerial refuelling. An open corridor across northern Saudi Arabia would significantly shorten the distance. An airstrike would involve multiple waves of bombers, possibly crossing Jordan, northern Saudi Arabia and Iraq. Aircraft attacking Bushehr, on the Gulf coast, could swing beneath Kuwait to strike from the southwest.

Passing over Iraq would require at least tacit agreement to the raid from Washington. So far, the Obama Administration has refused to give its approval as it pursues a diplomatic solution to curbing Iran’s nuclear ambitions. Military analysts say Israel has held back only because of this failure to secure consensus from America and Arab states. Military analysts doubt that an airstrike alone would be sufficient to knock out the key nuclear facilities, which are heavily fortified and deep underground or within mountains. However, if the latest sanctions prove ineffective the pressure from the Israelis on Washington to approve military action will intensify. Iran vowed to continue enriching uranium after the UN Security Council imposed its toughest sanctions yet in an effort to halt the Islamic Republic’s nuclear programme, which Tehran claims is intended for civil energy purposes only. President Ahmadinejad has described the UN resolution as “a used handkerchief, which should be thrown in the dustbin”.

Israeli officials refused to comment yesterday on details for a raid on Iran, which the Prime Minister, Binyamin Netanyahu, has refused to rule out. Questioned on the option of a Saudi flight path for Israeli bombers, Aharaon Zeevi Farkash, who headed military intelligence until 2006 and has been involved in war games simulating a strike on Iran, said: “I know that Saudi Arabia is even more afraid than Israel of an Iranian nuclear capacity.”

In 2007 Israel was reported to have used Turkish air space to attack a suspected nuclear reactor being built by Iran’s main regional ally, Syria. Although Turkey publicly protested against the “violation” of its air space, it is thought to have turned a blind eye in what many saw as a dry run for a strike on Iran’s far more substantial — and better-defended — nuclear sites.

Israeli intelligence experts say that Egypt, Saudi Arabia and Jordan are at least as worried as themselves and the West about an Iranian nuclear arsenal.Israel has sent missile-class warships and at least one submarine capable of launching a nuclear warhead through the Suez Canal for deployment in the Red Sea within the past year, as both a warning to Iran and in anticipation of a possible strike. Israeli newspapers reported last year that high-ranking officials, including the former Prime Minister Ehud Olmert, have met their Saudi Arabian counterparts to discuss the Iranian issue. It was also reported that Meir Dagan, the head of Mossad, met Saudi intelligence officials last year to gain assurances that Riyadh would turn a blind eye to Israeli jets violating Saudi airspace during the bombing run. Both governments have denied the reports.



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Deadline to attack Iran's nuke.

http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/John--Bolton--Iran--Nuclear--israel/2010/08/13/id/367449?s=al&promo_code=A80B-1
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Iran Film: Iran plans to conquer Israel and World.

http://www.newsmax.com/KenTimmerman/Ahmadinejad-Jerusalem-Iran-Hezbollah/2011/03/28/id/390925




Iran Leaders Backpedal Over Movie Predicting Destruction of Israel
http://www.newsmax.com/KenTimmerman/mahmoud-ahmadinejad-kahlili-reza/2011/04/14/id/392856
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fakhravar's trip to Israel:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSbayiIwPfU&feature=player_embedded


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNWDhpOPYIY&feature=player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKaMJtJCmn4&feature=player_embedded
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:40 pm    Post subject: Fakhravar in Israel Reply with quote

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Fakhravar's trip to Israel:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSbayiIwPfU&feature=player_embedded


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNWDhpOPYIY&feature=player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKaMJtJCmn4&feature=player_embedded


Fakhravar interview and message was a good overview of Iranian youth and FREE Iran communities vision that it has been stated in this open Forum and in other FREE Iran communities public forum.
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