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PostPosted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 11:05 am    Post subject: Who Is Ganji? Reply with quote

Ambassador Hakimi wrote:
Dears,
It seems that they are making another KHATAMI for us?!
Wake up & see what is happening around you.
Now Mr. Ganji has all the ears he is asking for!?
Hashem


Who Is Ganji?
- Is he the same person which helped bring about that revolution and install this theocracy?
- Is he the same guy which backed Khomeini and his cronies?
- What was his function as part of Militia Force, list of prisoners name exected by him?
- Mr. Ganji must open his past profile to the public before asking forgiveness from Million victims.
- Is he follower of Islam and Imam Ali ...?
- Is Mr. Ganji follower of Montazari?
- If he is Imam Ali follower then he is not secular.
- If he wants to draw attention to the IR’s crimes against humanity, we say fine. We have nothing to lose by his appeal to the world regarding the evil of this regime. But he should not expect any sympathy from Victims of Terror Masters.

Mr. Ganji must answer many questions before he might be accepted in the Iranian opposition community.


Forgiveness Can Be Given By Victims Family and Future Free Iran Justice System Not By Any Opposition Leaders or Groups ....:

- Despite the fact that the whole world is now aware of the saga of the journalist Akbar Ganji ( Former Militia Executioner …) and his hunger strike in Iran’s Evin prison, and appreciate his opposition to Islamist regime in recent years only the Millions of victims and their family may decide to forgive Akbar Ganji …. as executioner in the Islamist Miltia forces …..

- It is well known fact that the future leadership of Iran depends on the people’s political choice between a Secular or Non-Secular / Free Society or Close Society … path in the overthrow of the Islamist regime.
- We the people and supporters of Free Society and Secular Democracy reject any person who has been associated with IslamoFascist Tyranny Security forces in the past, and they should not expect to be part of new future leadership team , unless the future FREE Iran with Free Society and Secular democratic Justice system can clear these people based on evidence.
- No future Iranian opposition leaders have any rights to forgive the individual associated with IslamoFascist Tyranny Security forces, only future justice system with victims family as members of jury have rights to forgive these individuals.
- Akbar Ganji, Sazagara, Khatami .... should not expect to be forgiven by any Iranian opposition group or leaders for their crimes against humanity until Iranian people can establish sophisticated fair justice system with general acceptable International standard to deal with crimes against humanity..
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

«یکجا باید بخشید»، یا بهم ریختن مرز حق و ناحق؟

منیره برادران




• بحث بخشودن را به ویژه وقتی به جرائم حاد نقض حقوق بشر و جنایت مربوط می شود، نمی توان با اخلاق استدلال کرد. این بحث پیش از آنکه جنبه سیاسی داشته باشد، با معیارهای حقوقی سر و کار دارد. حقوق بشر هم تنها مسئله وجدان و اخلاق نیست بلکه بیشتر موضوع حقوقی است و برای تضمین آن باید به ابزارهای حقوقی متوسل شد. برشمردن مزیتهای اخلاقی اصول حقوق بشر سلاحی برای جلوگیری از نقض آن نیست ...

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آقای اکبر گنجی در جمهوری جمهوریها- مانیفست سوم- و همچنین درمصاحبه با صدای آلمان در تاریخ ٥ ژوئن ٢٠٠٦، بحثی را در رابطه با بخشش گشوده اند. بخشودن کسانی که کشور ما را به آستانه ویرانگی کشانده اند، بحثی است بسیار حساس و مورد اختلاف نظر، که تا تامل و تبادل نظر در آن نباشد، می تواند پیامدهای ناگواری در پی داشته باشد. این نوشته تاملی است بر نکاتی در این بحث.

بخشش یا معافیت از مجازات؟
«بحث هم جنبه اخلاقی دارد و هم جنبه سیاسی»
جنبه سیاسی این بحث در صحبت آقای گنجی ناروشن مانده است، اما وقتی جنبه اخلاقی به میان می آید، طبعا این سوال پیش می آید، کدام اخلاق و به نفع چه کسی؟ مفاهیم مجرم و قربانی با یکدیگر معنا می یابند. وقتی در اینجا مبنای اخلاقی بودن را بخشش مجرم و رضایت او قرار دهیم، چه بسا از نیاز و خواست قربانی صرف نظر کرده ایم. و اگر مسئله را از جانب دیگر بنگریم، آیا محاکمه و مجازات کسانی که دستور شکنجه و قتل مخالفان را دادند، این اعمال را سازماندهی و اجرا کردند، مردم را به خشونت علیه مخالفان فراخواندند، خواستی است غیر اخلاقی؟
از دیدگاه من اصلا بحث بخشودن را به ویژه وقتی به جرائم حاد نقض حقوق بشر و جنایت مربوط می شود، نمی توان با اخلاق استدلال کرد؟ این بحث پیش از آنکه جنبه سیاسی داشته باشد، با معیارهای حقوقی سر و کار دارد. حقوق بشر هم تنها مسئله وجدان و اخلاق نیست بلکه بیشتر موضوع حقوقی است و برای تضمین آن باید به ابزارهای حقوقی متوسل شد. برشمردن مزیتهای اخلاقی اصول حقوق بشر سلاحی برای جلوگیری از نقض آن نیست.
ترجمان بخشش، چشم پوشی نهادهای قضائی از مجازات اعمالی است که قابل مجازات هستند. اگر پیرایه های اخلاقی و مذهبی واژه بخشش را کنار بزنیم و معنی آن را در زبان حقوقی، که زبانی صریح است، جستجو کنیم، می بینیم معنی آن چیزی نیست جز «معافیت از مجازات». یعنی کسانی که دست به جنایت زده اند، بدون پذیرش مسئولیت و بی محاکمه بخشیده شوند. این کار چهره عدالت را در جامعه مخدوش می کند و باعث بی اعتبار شدن ارزشهای اخلاقی می شود.

خشم علیه بیدادگری خشونت نیست. دادخواهی هم مترادف انتقام نیست.
چطور می شود از قربانیان و آسیب دیدگان انتظار داشت که یکباره خشم و نفرت را کنار بگذارند و «یکجا ببخشند»، پیش از آنکه هیچگونه روشنگری در مورد جنایتها صورت گرفته باشد و قبل از آنکه مسئولان و دست اندرکاران بار مسئولیت خویش را به عهده گرفته باشند. خشم و نفرت علیه مسببین جنایت- و طبعا نه هر خشمی- حاصل حق کشیها و بیعدالتی ها است که نمی توان با موعظه و خواهش آن را فرو نشاند. لازمه این کار یک سلسله تغییر و تحولات سیاسی است. اما باید توجه داشت که این خشم و نفرت تنها علیه مسببین جنایت نشانه نرفته، در نفس خود اعتراض به حق کشیها و نقض حقوق بشر هم هست. اگر در جامعه ای خشم و نفرت علیه شکنجه، اعدام و سایر مجازاتهای وحشیانه و ضدبشری نباشد، آیا بی تفاوتی از آن زاده نمی شود؟
این خشم و نفرت را در وهله نخست قربانیان و داغ دیدگان حمل می کنند که بر رنج از دست دادن فرزند و عزیز، حس تلخ ناشی از انزوا در جامعه را باید به آن افزود. جامعه ای که بخواهد تکلیف خود را با گذشته ننگین روشن کند، تلاش می کند که در رنج و خشم قربانیان سهیم شود. این طریقی است که می تواند به شکل گیری خودآگاهی حقوق بشری در جامعه و پرورش وجدان جمعی در پاسداری از ارزشهای حقوق بشر کمک کند.
اما خشم و نفرت علیه بیدادگری و بیدادگران لزوما مترادف انتقام و خشونت نیست ولی می تواند در شرایط خاص تاریخی مثلا در شرایط شور انقلابی به وقوع بپیوندد - آقای گنجی در «جمهوری جمهوریها» این موضوع را مورد بررسی فرار داده است. اما تجربه نشان داده که معمولا این قربانیان و داغ دیدگان نیستند که به خشونت متوسل می شوند. چرا که عموما از جنبه روانشناختی خشم و ستیزه جوئی آنها جنبه درونی به خود می گیرد. اگر خواست و انتظار آنها که احترام و تائید اجتماعی رنجهایشان و دادخواهی علیه مسببین آن داغ و دردها است، برآورده نشود، پیامد آن می تواند انزوای دوباره آنها باشد. ضایعه این واکنش برای جامعه از خطر خشونت کمتر نیست. جامعه بیمار را بیمارتر می کند. نظام دموکراتیکی که بناست گروه های مختلف مردم را در سیاست و تصمیم گیریها شریک کند، با حذف آنها اولین گام به عقب را برمی دارد و پیامد آن می تواند عقب گردهای بعدی باشد.
پیگیری قضائی به هدف دادرسی نه انتقام گیری است و نه روشی خشونت آمیز. راهی است که نزاعها و دعویها را با منطق حقوق و قانون پیش می برد، از حکمها و مجازاتهای فردی جلوگیری می کند و هدف آن بازداشتن از تکرار جنایت است. اینکه دادرسی باید متکی بر ارزشهای حقوق بشر و در نفی مجازات اعدام باشد، اصلی است پذیرفته شده در مجامع حقوق بشر و به نظر می رسد امروز با درس گیری از تجارب تلخ سالهای اخیر همگی بر سر آن توافق داریم.

بخشش و دموکراسی؟ جمع اضداد؟
آقای گنجی در مصاحبه می گوید: «من می گویم اگر شما می خواهید به لحاظ سیاسی به دموکراسی برسید اگر می خواهید یک نظام سیاسی دموکرات و آزاد تشکیل بدهید، این راهی جز این ندارد که انتقام، خشم، کینه و اینها را کنار بگذارید. ما با نفرت، با کینه و با خشم نمی توانیم یک نظام دموکراتیک درست کنیم. اگر بخواهید نظامی دموکراتیک درست کنید، یک جا باید ببخشید.»
ایکاش آقای گنجی در ربط دموکراسی و بخشش به ما توضیح می دادند. محاکمه و مجازات کسانی را که شکنجه کرده اند، فرمان و حکم قتل مخالفان را داده و یا اجرا کرده اند، و یا در سازماندهی این گونه جنایتها دست داشته اند، با استفاده از تریبون و امکانات دولت خشونت را در مورد مخالفان، دگراندیشان و دگردینان دامن زده اند و یا در مقام عضو دولت بر این جنایتها صحه گذاشته اند، امری است که در یک نظام دموکراتیک باید از دستگاه قضائی انتظار داشت. مجرمان قدرقدرت دار نباید در مقایسه با مجرمان عادی از حق ویژه معافیت از مجازات برخوردار شوند. چرا یک دزد و یک قاتل را محاکمه و مجازات می کنیم اما آن کسی که صدها یا شاید هزاران نفر را شکنجه کرده به قتل رسانده، حکم اعدام داده و... مشمول معافیت از مجازات می کنیم. اگر بنا باشد در یک نظام دموکراتیک- که به حتم در کشور ما هم برقرار خواهد شد- کسانی که چنین اعمالی را مرتکب شده اند، از محاکمه و مجازات در امان باشند، آیا اعتباری در جامعه برای دستگاه حقوقی و قضائی باقی می ماند؟ و شما چگونه می خواهید جلوی خشونت را بگیرند, وقتی قاتلین بزرگ راست راست می گردند چرا من نکنم,
یکی دیگر از مهمترین اصول دموکراسی، اصل مسئولیت پذیری است. بیشک نمی توان ساخت و سیستم یک نظام بشدت ضددموکراتیک و مبتنی بر قوانین ضدحقوق بشری را به اعمال فردی تنزل داد. اما با این استدلال کلی «آدمها خود زاده شرایط غیرانسانی اند»، نمی توان مسئولیت فردی را نادیده گرفت. یک سیستم جدا از افرادی که سازمان دهنده و مجری آن هستند، نیست. نمی توان سیستمی را ناحق دانست و آن را محکوم کرد، ولی آمران و مجریان آن را از پیگرد و محکومیت مصون دانست.
از دیگر اصول دموکراسی مستقل بودن دستگاه قضائی از سیاست است. اگر پای منافع سیاسی در این راه به میان آید، قربانیان بار دیگر قربانی خواهند شد تا جنایتکاران راضی و آسوده خاطر زندگی کنند و چه بسا به توطئه های خود ادامه دهند. نه تنها خانواده ها و وابستگان قربانیان و بازماندگان سهمی در آن دموکراسی نخواهند داشت، بلکه بخشهای دیگر جامعه هم نسبت به آن بی اعتماد خواهند شد.

«یکجا باید بخشید» بهم ریختن مرز حق و ناحق؟
بخشودگی پیشاپیش و «یکجا»، می تواند به کمرنگ شدن قبح و بار ناحق بودن جنایت بیانجامد. چون با این کار از پیگیری تمام جنایتهائی که در یک دوره معین تاریخی در کشوری صورت گرفته، چشم پوشی می شود. کارکرد دادرسی مجازات مجرم از یکطرف و افشای حقوقی ناحق بودن عمل و جرم از طرف دیگر است. با بستن راه های دادرسی نه تنها از مجازات مجرم صرف نظر می شود بلکه خود جرم هم تبرئه می شود.
«شما وقتی می بخشید، این شما هستید که آزادید، نه آن جنایتکار. جنایتکاری که جنایت می کند و شما را در بند می کند، در واقع او اسیر شماست. شما با بخشش او نشان می دهید که آن کسی که آزاد است در واقع شما هستید نه او.»
متاسفانه مسئله در واقعیت چنین زیبائی عرفانی را ندارد. جنایت همیشه فریبنده، جان سخت و پرزور است جای پایش در قدرت است. و قربانیان همیشه ناچارند برای شناسائی حقوق خود کارزار کنند. اوست که آزاد است که بار دیگر - و شاید این بار در شکلی دیگر- به کار ننگینش ادامه دهد. آیا با «یکجا ببخشید» آزادی دیگران را به خطر نمی اندازیم؟

هیچ وسیله دیگری را نمی توان جایگزین دادرسی قرار داد.
دادرسی و اجرای عدالت در مورد عاملین نقض حقوق بشر یک اجماع جهان شمول است و اعتبار آن ورای تفاوتهای فرهنگی است. مصونیت قضائی برای کسانی که مرتکب شکنجه، قتل و مجازاتهای وحشیانه نظیر سنگسار، قطع عضوی از بدن و غیره شده اند، در تناقض با میثاقهای بین المللی است که محاکمه و مجازات عاملان این اعمال ضدبشری را برای دولتها الزامی و یا حتی در سطح بین المللی قابل اجرا می داند، نظیر عهدنامه بین المللی بر ضد شکنجه، میثاق بین المللی حقوق مدنی و سیاسی.
هیچ وسیله دیگری نمی تواند جایگزین دادرسی در مورد جنایتکاران شود. «فراموش نمی کنم» که آقای گنجی روی آن تاکید دارد، نیاز به نهادی چون کمیسیون حقیقت دارد. کمیسیون حقیقت نه جانشین دادگاه و نه مانع آن است و حتی می تواند راه را برای محاکمه هموار کند. تجربه نشان داده که محاکمه چهره های منفور و شناخته شده، بیشتر می تواند به روشن شدن حقیقت و مقابله با فراموشی یاری رساند. مورد آفریقای جنوبی را، که معمولا نمونه و مورد استناد قرار می گیرد، باید استثنا دانست. تنها در این کشور کمیسیون حقیقت این اختیار را داشت که در مورد تقاضای عفو کسانی که مرتکب جنایت شده بودند، به شرط اعتراف داوطلبانه و پوزش از قربانیان تصمیم بگیرد. چنین عفوی اولا عفو فردی بود و نه عفو عمومی و «یکجا»، گرچه خود این امر از طرف ناظران حقوقی، طرفداران حقوق بشر و خانواده های قربانیان مورد انتقاد قرار گرفت. چون اگر تقاضای عفو مجرمی از طرف کمیسیون پذیرفته می شد، این به معنای مصونیت او از پیگرد محسوب می شد.
مثال آفریقای جنوبی را باید با توجه به شرایط خاص آن، یعنی دوشقه بودن جامعه بر اساس رنگ پوست سنجید. هر جامعه ای وضعیت خاص خود را دارد و هیچ مدلی را نمی توان الگوبرداری کرد.

چه کسی می تواند ببخشد چه کسی را و چه زمانی؟
«انسانی که وارستگی اخلاق داشته باشد باید بتواند مخالف خودش را ببخشد»
«مخالف» را چگونه تعریف می کنیم؟ وقتی پای نقض حقوق بشر و اعمال جنایت آمیز در میان است، رابطه من با مثلا کسی که مرا شکنجه کرده برادر و بهترین دوستانم را کشته، از مخالف فراتر می رود. او به خاطر شکنجه و قتل در مظان اتهام است نه به دلیل مواضع و جایگاه سیاسی اش و نه حتی به دلیل عضویت در ارگانهای حکومتی.
مهمترین سوال در بحث مربوط به بخشودن این است: چه کسی را باید بخشید؟ مردم و به ویژه خانواده های قربانیان و بازماندگان برای اینکه ببخشند، ابتدا باید بدانند که چه کسانی مسبب آنهمه ویرانی و اعدامها بوده اند. بخشش بدون روشن شدن حقیقت و بدون شناساندن عاملان جنایت به یک پروسه اجتماعی تبدیل نمی شود. اگر نخواهیم آن را به یک بخشش ارزان تنزل دهیم، بخشودن آخرین گام پس از یک پروسه طولانی و پردرد درگیری با گذشته و بعد از روشن شدن حقیقت و اجرای دارسی میسر است. بخشش هم جنبه فردی دارد و هم جنبه اجتماعی. هم فرد داغ دیده باید آماده بخشودن باشد و هم جامعه به این مرحله رسیده باشد. نمی توان برای آن فراخوان داد، یا آن را به رفراندوم گذاشت. کسی نمی تواند به جانشینی از طرف قربانیان و یا به نام دولت جنایکاران را ببخشد. از آن پروسه دشوار گریزی نیست. کوتاهترین راهها معمولا پرخطاترین راهها هستند.
چه کسی می تواند ببخشد؟ شایسته ترین کسانی که باید در این باره تصمیم بگیرند، کسانی هستند که دیگر در میان ما نیستند. آنها را اعدام کردند. یک بار دیگر ما حذفشان نکنیم.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 3:10 pm    Post subject: Ganji's Next Strike Likely at U.N. Reply with quote

Ganji's Next Strike Likely at U.N.

New York Sun
By ELI LAKE - Staff Reporter of the Sun
July 11, 2006

http://www.nysun.com/article/35817

CAIRO, Egypt -- Iran's most famous opposition figure, Akbar Ganji, is due to arrive in New York on Saturday on a trip where he will lead a hunger strike in front of the United Nations and attend a meeting with the leftist MIT political science professor Noam Chomsky.

In his visit to America, however, Mr. Ganji will not be meeting with any American government officials. He is seeking an audience with Secretary-General Annan, who, when first asked by this newspaper his opinion of Mr. Ganji's hunger strike a year ago, did not know his name. In an attempt to stay above the fray of internecine Iranian émigré politics, Mr. Ganji is refusing to accept support from any formal Iranian political parties based in America.

Mr. Ganji's visit would have presented a chance for the Bush administration to show its commitment to Iran's secular democracy movement. Yesterday, the administration issued a press statement commemorating the July 9, 1999, Tehran University uprisings.

But Mr. Ganji's refusal to meet with the administration, while holding court with one of the president's most virulent and partisan critics, sends a clear message to Iran's leading mullahs that many in the Iranian democratic opposition are not interested in the million that Congress promised them earlier this year in a special appropriation.

A spokesman for the ad hoc committee arranging Mr. Ganji's visit to America, Mehdi Amini, said yesterday that the former reporter and political prisoner did not want to risk arrest upon his return to Iran. "He has said he is not willing to meet U.S. government officials. He plans to go to Iran and he does not want this to be a reason for the Iranians to rearrest him," Mr. Amini said.

Iran formally charged a Canadian Iranian professor, Ramin Jahanbegloo, this month with trying to foment a "velvet" or "soft" revolution in Iran by assisting a secular opposition supported by America. The professor was a scholar at the National Endowment for Democracy in 2004.

Part of Mr. Ganji's mission in America, Mr. Amini said, is to bring attention to political prisoners in Iran. Specifically,the hunger strike scheduled for this weekend will be to demand the release of the leader of a bus drivers' strike, Mansour Osanloo, Mr. Jahanbegloo, and a student activist, Ali Akbar Mosavi-Khoini.

Mr. Ganji first came to the attention of the White House last July when President Bush became the first world leader to urge Iran's supreme leader to release Mr. Ganji from Evin prison, where he went on a hunger strike that lasted nearly two months.

The former reformist writer attracted the attention of the Iranian authorities in 2000, when he published a book and series of articles accusing a former president, Ali Hashemi Rafsanjani, of approving a string of murders of Iranian intellectuals. Mr. Ganji was sentenced to six years in jail for publishing this information and attending a reform conference in Berlin.

From prison, he published a two-part manifesto urging Iranians to withdraw their consent to be governed by the ruling clerics. During his hunger strike, Mr. Ganji wrote to numerous Iranian public figures, including Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, whom he urged to step down as supreme leader.

While Mr.Ganji was on hunger strike last summer, Mr. Chomsky signed a petition urging his release. Mr. Chomsky then traveled to Lebanon this spring to meet with leaders of the Syrian-funded terrorist group Hezbollah, which Iran created in the early 1980s. The areas of southern Lebanon ruled by Hezbollah resemble the Shariah state Mr. Ganji is now dedicated to overturning in his native Iran.

Yesterday, one New York-based Iranian-American activist, Banafsheh Zand Bonazzi, said she was disappointed that Mr. Ganji was meeting with Mr. Chomsky. "Because he has been sitting in Iran and has not had to live with Noam Chomsky, he does not know what people like Chomsky do," she said. "He is looking at Chomsky as a hero worshipper, and that Chomsky no longer exists."

One reason for the visit is Mr. Ganji's interest in Western philosophy. His manifesto is laced with references to Karl Popper, the thinker who coined the concept of the open society. In Berlin last month, he met with a German liberal theorist, Jurgen Habermas.

Mr. Ganji's meeting schedule is contrary in spirit to that of Amir Abbas Fakhravar, a student activist who arrived in Washington in May and has since briefed reporters at the American Enterprise Institute, as well as State Department officials. Vice President Cheney's staff has scheduled a meeting with the student leader
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

چنين جنايت وُ کشتار وُ قتل وُ غارت را مغول نکرد وُ سکندر نکرد وُ ملا کرد
مغول بکشت وُ سکندر بسوزاند وُ تازی برد ببين جنايتِ ملا که هر سه با ما کرد


تضمين پيروزی

مبنای مردم سالاری، رعايت اصول مدنيّت و صراحت و صداقت و اکراه از دورويی و مهملات ميباشد ، که در غير از آن مردم سالاری فقط در حدّ شعار بوده و در عمل شاهد مردم ستيزی خواهيم بود( نمونه، نظام حاکم بر ايران).
مهمل انديشی و مهمل گويی حاکمان جمهوری اسلامی، نشانگر تضاد بينش آنان، با منطق، استدلال، شعور و يک ذهن ورزيده و فرهيخته ميباشد و خرافات و پوچيدگی ذهن را به همراه مياورد.
استحکام ستونهای يک بنا، ضامن استواری و طول عمر آن بنا و همچنين ايجاد احساس رفاه روحی و وجدانی ميباشد و لذا تضمينِ پيروزی، اتحادی قوی و منسجم ميباشد، ولی نه با عناصری که ميتوانند عامل سستی و تزلزل اتحاد شوند و سقوط آنرا موجب گردند.
انديشه، بر تمامی گروهها و سازمانهای دموکراتيک و آزاديخواه، اجبار ميکند که در اين برهه از زمان، همچون پلی قوی، استوار و مستحکم، عامل انتقال و استقرار مردم، از منجلاب استبداد خونين جمهوری اسلامی، به سوی ديگر که همانا آزادی و حفظ حيثيت و فرهنگ باستان است، باشيم و تضمين استواری و استقامت اين پل، هوشياری نيروهای آزاده، از طريق دفعِ به ظاهر آزادگان و فرصت طلبان به اصطلاح از رژيم بريده، که سعی در رخنه در صفوف و تضعيف و سستی پل اتصال و انتقال به سوی آزادی مردم را داشته و موجب سقوط و ريزش آن و بی الطبع، سقوط دوباره مردم ميگردند، ميباشد.
ازينرو اتحاد با کمونيست و يا گروهی تروريستی و ديکتاتور(مجاهدين)، حتی اگر برای سرنگونی نظام جنايتکار جمهوری اسلامی، عملی غير معقول و اشتباه بوده و مشابه با اشتباه و خيانت مجاهدين، که همبستگی و اتحاد با رژيم ديکتاتور صدام را برای سرنگونی ديکتاتوری ديگر(جمهوری اسلامی) برگزيدند، ميباشد و به اين دليل عدم توجه به سوابق سياسی و يا حتی اجتماعی افراد، ميتواند پديد آورنده خطر از چاله به چاه افتادن کند و مسير حرکت را به بی راهه سوق دهد.
از تاريخ بايد درس آموخت و عدم توجه به گذشته و تجربيات و نياموختن از تاريخ، خطر قطعی دوباره خطا کردن و بيش از پيش پايمال شدن حيثيت و فرهنگ ملی و اعتقادات و باورهای مردم را به همراه خواهد داشت.
حال که همگی مردم و گروههای سياسی ميهن دوست و دموکراتيک، تصميم به عدمِ خود به دست تقدير سپردن، گرفته اند، نبايد، حتی به اسم اتحاد، مردم و عاشقان سرگردان ميهن را، از دست شيوخ منحوس وکفتاران خون آشام حاکم برهانيم، تا که آنان را با بدست، گرگان توبه گر، به اصطلاح از رژيم جدا شده که اشک تمساح ميريزند، داده و مجدداً شاهد لگدمال شدن و مردم ستيزی باشيم.
ازينرو تصور داريم که نياز به همدستی و پيوند، اجبار به قبولِ گرگانِ به ظاهر توبه کرده نميکند؛ گرگانی که هر روز از اينسو و آنسو تحتِ عناوينی همچون رفراندومِ درون حکومتی؛ اصلاح طلبی؛ آشتیِ ملی با جنايتکاران؛ عروسکهای اسلامی- حکومتیِ صلحِ نوبلی و .... ، و همچنين نياز به توجه بسيار به تاريخچه مبارزاتیِ!!!! گروهها نيز الزاميست تا مبادا برای نجاتِ ملت از چنگالِ علما( آخوندها)، ملت را به اسارتِ رفقا(کمونيستها، مارکسيستهای اسلامی، ملی مذهبيون) درآوريم.
اتحادِ نيروها، لازمه پيروزيست، ولی نه به قيمت اختلاط " نيک و بد" ، وتحمل دوباره بيهودگيها و پايمال شدن و فدا شدن دوباره آزادگان راه ميهن ، به دست مهمل انديشان و مهمل گويان ديگری به غير از حاکمان جمهوری اسلامی .

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 12:30 am    Post subject: Ganji gets angry in London Reply with quote

Dears,

Before Akbar Ganji set sail for America, he was invited to take part in a press conference at the Foreign Press Association in London (Thursday 13th July). The attached document, which was sent to me by a friend and is published in Keyhan of London this week, is a concise account of some of the more challenging questions that he was asked. Ganji who was accompanied by his body guards, i.e. Farrohk Negahdar and Sholeh-Saadi, tried to keep his calm during the Q and A but some of the questions, particularly the last one (see the text) made him very disturbed and provoked and angry response.


Please read and distribute.


http://www.activistchat.com/MeetingwithGanjiatFPA_13July2006.pdf
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 3:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote


آخر ما نفهميديم چرا هر وقت جمهوریِ اسلامی خائنی را در جلدِ اپوزيسيون به ميدان ميفرستد، بجای بی توجهی و طردِ آن، همگی بنامِ مبارزه با وی، در حقيقت از عواملِ تبليغ و معروف شدنِ آن مزدور ميشويم.
مدتی مثلاً بنامِ مخالفت با حاج خانم شيرين عبادی وامروز بنامِ مخالفت با حاج آقا اکبر گنجی، اينقدر مينويسيم وصحبت ميکنيم و نظريه ميدهيم، که گويی از ارزشی جهانی برخوردارند و بدستِ خودمان، اين نامعلومها را به شهرتِ نه تنها داخلی بلکه جهانی ميرسانيم.

همگی ميدانيم که هر چه بيشتر فاضلاب را به هم بزنيم، بوی گندش بيشتر ميشود؛ پس چرا اينقدر با وقت گذاشتن برای اينگونه افراد، فاضلاب را به تلاطم می اندازيم؛ آيا بويش خودمان را نيز ناراحت نميکند!!!!!!!!؟

هم ميهنِ مبارزی در يکی از نوشته هايش اينطور آدمها را با بادمجان دورِ قاب چينها و يا مگسانِ دورِ شيرينی تشابه کرده بود که بابتِ اجرتِ خود، به خيانت مشغولند.
" نظرِ صحيح اينست که مگسان، 2 دسته اند: آنان که دورِ شيرينی می چرخند و ميگردند و ديگر مگسِ سبز است که بر مدفوع می نشيند و اين خائنانِ لُنگ انداز، مگسانِ سبزِ مدفوع خوار هستند".

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 12:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Iran activist 'snubs White House'
By Daryoush Homaee
BBC World Service, Washington

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5211840.stm

Mr Ganji said Iranian dissidents needed to present a common front
Iranian dissident Akbar Ganji declined to meet White House officials during a visit to the US, he has told the BBC.

Mr Ganji said he had been invited to discuss the current situation in Iran. The White House declined to comment.

He said he rejected the offer because he believed current US policies could not help promote democracy in Iran.

In a speech last week in Washington DC, he also criticised US policy in Iraq, saying: "You cannot bring democracy to a country by attacking it".

He added that the war in Iraq had helped Islamic fundamentalism and hampered the democracy movement in the region.

A group of Iranian dissidents met State Department official Nicholas Burns and Elliot Abrams, an adviser to the National Security Council, while Mr Ganji was in Washington last week.

Mr Ganji said he believed such meetings would undermine the credibility of the Iranian opposition.

However, Mr Ganji added that if Iranian opposition were united and they had a recognised leadership, they could negotiate with US officials to find the best ways of helping promote democracy and human rights in Iran.

Hunger strike

He said he was in the United States not as a leader of Iran's democracy movement, but as a journalist who wanted to draw international attention to the plight of people in Iranian jails.

The highlight of Mr Ganji's visit to the United States was a three-day hunger strike in front of United Nations headquarters in New York.

Mr Ganji had staged a hunger strike for several weeks when he was in Iran's notorious Evin prison in Tehran.

He was joined by tens of other Iranians who went on strike to campaign against what they called the arbitrary detention of political activists and intellectuals in Iran.

His visit coincides with renewed pressure on Iran for its support of Hezbollah in Lebanon and its rejection of calls to stop uranium enrichment.

In a speech at Washington's Georgetown University, he said he believed Iran's nuclear programme was not in its national interest.

Mr Ganji was arrested in 2000 after returning from a conference in Berlin.

He was accused of having "damaged national security" and sentenced to six years in jail.

In July 2005, President Bush called on Iran to release Ganji "immediately and unconditionally".

He was released in March 2006, in poor health as a result of his lengthy hunger strike against prison conditions.

On Monday, Mr Ganji is making a speech in New York to a gathering organised by the International Pen Association, which campaigns for writers' freedom.

He says he will return to Iran once he finishes his tour of the US and Europe.


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Well I have a couple questions for Ganji myself;

1.
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Mr Ganji said he believed such meetings would undermine the credibility of the Iranian opposition.


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A spokesman for the ad hoc committee arranging Mr. Ganji's visit to America, Mehdi Amini, said yesterday that the former reporter and political prisoner did not want to risk arrest upon his return to Iran. "He has said he is not willing to meet U.S. government officials. He plans to go to Iran and he does not want this to be a reason for the Iranians to rearrest him," Mr. Amini said.


Mr. Ganji, with all due respect for what you've been through at the hands of the regime, is it not your own credibility with the regime you are concerned about?

And a follow-up:

In what way does giving the Iranian opposition a voice in Iranian affairs to the US gov in any way have anything to do with detracting from its membership's credibility, since the opposition has consistantly asked for and received the moral support of the Administration as voiced by the president who went to bat for you personally to obtain your freedom, and has many times voiced his hopes for all Iranians to someday live in an an Iran- whole, free and at peace?

2. Has your tongue been held hostage by the regime, with your wife held as "insurance" to ensure your obediance?

Is this the reason you cannot even have the common decency to say thanks in person to the man who called for your freedom?

3. Mr. Ganji, do you honestly believe democracy would have come to Iraq by any other means, given the circumstances? As any Iranian will tell you, Iran is not Iraq.

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But Mr. Ganji's refusal to meet with the administration, while holding court with one of the president's most virulent and partisan critics, sends a clear message to Iran's leading mullahs that many in the Iranian democratic opposition are not interested in the million that Congress promised them earlier this year in a special appropriation.



Or one could read it that the regime is using Mr. Ganji to create that impression with the US gov. , In any case it is a false premis.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 12:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Ambassador Hakimi wrote:
Dears,
It seems that they are making another KHATAMI for us?!
Wake up & see what is happening around you.
Now Mr. Ganji has all the ears he is asking for!?
Hashem


Dear Hashem,

Your mistrust for foreign governments being noted on many occasion, I would suggest that on this occasion at least that Ganji is doing fine all by himself, if not with "assistance" from the IRI itself.

You may take note that Americans in general are apt to provide the benefit of the doubt first, before suspicion or condemnation.

And if you wonder why that is, it is because the premis of "innocent until proven guilty" is enshrined in the law of the land.

If you think that the US would invest in a regime change with the intent to install another form of theocratic totalitarianism, think again my friend.

Regards,

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 3:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Is this the reason you cannot even have the common decency to say thanks in person to the man who called for your freedom?


If he had the common decency he would not be follower of Ali, Islam ...
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 4:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Is this the reason you cannot even have the common decency to say thanks in person to the man who called for your freedom?


If he had the common decency he would not be follower of Ali, Islam ...


(chuckle)....I'll take that under advisement, Cyrus. But I'm not convinced his religious conviction is the reason he bites the hand that helped free him.

Lot of freedom loving Afghan and Iraqi Muslims have offered Mr. Bush their thanks, so their common decency being duly noted, I doubt Ganji can offer even that as an excuse.

In any case, I think at this point he's made himself totally irrelevant as an "opposition" figure....(oops)...cartoon character.....in an IRI sponsored charade.

Let's just leave it to Cox and Forkum to imortalize him properly, shall we?


What I'm most interested in is not the opinion of those that wern't at that whitehouse meeting, but the thoughts of the folks that were there in person. So far I have yet to see one comment from anyone that was there.

Ganji's letter to Bush indicated that at one "bad apple" was there, and I see the whole thing becoming like a deja'vu of the AEI fiasco last year, or at least from what some have indicated privately to me that opposition folks are generally very upset about that meeting.

Nor by the way in all the transcripts that I've looked through has any question been raised about it to the Whitehouse or State for them to have said, "No comment". No question, no comment possible.

Guess it's time to make a few phone calls. I'll keep you posted.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote


در ايران چسبی بود بنامِ چسب دوقلو که همه چيز را برای مدتی طولانی می چسباند.
گويی که با پيشرفتِ علم، جمهوریِ اسلامی موفق به ساختنِ چسبی چند قلو شده، چون هر چند گاهی، زباله هايی سخنران را به خارج صادر ميکند که تا دستشان به بلندگويی ميرسد، آنچنان اين خواهر و برادرانِ خودفروشِ چند قلو به ميکروفن و يا صفحه تلويزيون و بلندگوی راديو می چسبند که با تمامِ افشاگريها و مبارزه های گروههای ميهن پرست، زمانی طولانی برای دوباره به زباله دان انداختنِ آنها صرف ميشود.

بعضی از اين، چنين با دو دست چسبيده به بلندگوها، در عينِ بی اعتباریِ سياسی وفکری، متأسفانه موفق به کسبِ اعتباری موقتی در ميانِ زودباوران نيز ميشوند و هدفی خطرناک را دنبال ميکنند.
اينگونه آدمها بجای تعريف( نه بمعنای تمجيد، بلکه بمعنای معرفی کردن وتفسيرِ حقيقی) به تحريفِ مسائل می پردازند، که از کهنه کارانشان مثلِ مشيری گرفته ، تا نوبکارانشان مثلِ شيرين عبادی ، سازگارا، کار، اکبر گنجی و ... ، آنچنان در تحريف گويیهای خود استادانه عمل ميکنند و آنچنان جلوه ای حقيقت گو به خود ميگيرند، که گاه حتی بعضی آزادگانِ راستين را به موقت سردرگم ميکنند
.

خيانت عاملِ جنايت است و اينها خيانتکار هستند، پس عواملِ جنايت؛ جنايتکارانی که با دودست به بلندگوها چسبيده اند؛ و اين عجب چسبی است!!!!!!

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يک اکبر را ميکشند و اکبرِ ديگر دم از دموکراسیِ اسلامی ميزند.
شادروان اکبرِ محمدی در زندانِ جمهوریِ اسلامی کشته شد و اکبرِ گنجی از زندانِ !!!!!!!! جمهوریِ اسلامی آزاد و با شعارِ الله اکبر، مشغولِ فريبِ عام به سودِ جمهوریِ اسلاميست .
يکی به جرمِ بيگناهی (اکبر محمدی)، 8 سال در زندان ميگذراند و در آنجا و در زيرِ شکنجه جان ميدهد و ديگری (اکبر گنجی) از زندان( هتل اوين) بعد از آموزشهای ايدئولوژيکی به ميدانِ می آيد.
حتماً يکی خائن است و ديگری خادم بود.
مرورِ کارنامه حاج اکبرِ گنجی و همچنين در اسارت جان دادنِ اکبرِ محمدی، بر همه روشن ميکند که خادم که بود و خائن کيست.

جبهه نجات، تأسفِ خود را نسبت به در گذشت اکبرِ محمدی، به خانواده و نزديکانِ وی و ملتِ ايران ابلاغ ميدارد.

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Mr. Ganji Statement In Hollywood Party Is Wrong Again

Mr. Ganji Statement In Hollywood Party is wrong again when he stated that the root causes of Middle East problems are Israel (the biggest problem is Islam not Israel) and Lack of democracy (instead of Secular Democracy).

The root causes of problems in the Middle East, creation of IslamoFascist regime 27 years ago, lack of Free Society under Islamic rules. lack of Secular Democracy, Islamic Fascists, Taazi Mullahs, Interference of any kind of Islam (Shiite or Sunni ) in everyday life of people, Neo Colonialist EU3, Russia and China.
The formation of Israel in 1948 is a scapegoat and excuse not to deal with truth, Islam and real problem. Due to the fact that Israel is based on Free Society and Secular Democracy therefore it is in the National Interest of all freedom-loving Iranians that strong Israel would exist and those who do not see this fact should call themselves TAAZI. If we wish to see peace in Middle East, the Pro Hezbollah Occupiers of Iran must be removed from power NOW by any means before it becomes too late. If we wish to live in peace, all religious people from any religions must stay out of Middle East politics and religious Party, and Militia (Hezbollah, Hamas, ….) must become illegal in the Middle East. Due to the fact that majority of people in Israel are secular therefore their people are the biggest friends of future FREE Iran and they will be considered as the most reliable friend.

There is no historical fact available that supports the Inclusion of all segments of society within the context of Islam and Islamic Democracy does not exist and it is just an illusion.
Today it is well known fact that Islam as defined by Prophet Mohammad with nine wives and his marriage with 9 year old girl (child) is rejecting all basic rights within Free Society as we all agree and respect….
Due to the fact that respect for Women Rights and Human Rights within the context of Islam does not exist therefore these are just slogan by those who wish to deceive public and appease Islamofascist regime for personal agenda.
Islam can not be reformed and it is the biggest issue for peace.






Supporting Evidence:


1) Islamist Security Forces beat and arrest peaceful women protesters at free political prisoners rally in Iran. (Source Reuters 12 Jul 2005 15:17:27 GMT http://activistchat.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=6491 )
According to reports from 4 different sources to Radio Yaran (*1) four Islamic plain cloth officers of the dreaded security forces savagely beat to death a 50 plus year old woman in front of Tehran University. Her only crime was to shout “FREEDOM”.
(*1) Radio Yaran is an opposition radio, based in LA, broadcasting news and information to Iran.

2) Ms. Zahra Kazemi, a Canadian-Iranian photojournalist, was arrested on June 23, 2003 and was savagely raped and barbarically beaten to death by Islamic regime officials. (Source: http://activistchat.com/petition2.html )

3) Over the past 27 years the Islamic clerical regime's agents, courts, judges and vigilantes have all committed acts of murder, stoning, torture, assault, theft, destruction of property, arson, perjury, falsification of testimonials and material evidence, illegal surveillance, kidnapping, rape, blackmail, fraud, obstruction of justice, conspiracy to commit all of the above crimes, cover-ups and every other form of butchery and depredation.

4) The Islamic Clerical Regime has executed over 150,000 political prisoners and freedom-loving Iranians in less than 2 decades.

5) Petition 8: Save Nazanin - With Over 200,000 Signatures[By Miss World Canada Nazanin Afshin-Jam]

6) Petition 33: Save Malak Ghorbany from Death by Public Stoning [Lily Mazahery]

and countless other examples.

To stay silent and remain indifferent in the face of these barbaric atrocities and danger is indeed a sin for the believers and a cowardly act for the non-believers.


Some articles of the laws of the Islamic Republic

The Islamic Constitution

Article 2
Foundation of legislation is God, Source of laws is Quran, and life style is that of the prophet (Mohammad) and his family, meaning Imam traditions, Guardian Juriscouncil “Velaayat Faghih” – Khamenei_ is the illustrator of the laws.

Article 4
All legislatures must be within the standards of Islam by approval of Imam and the Guardian Council (appointed by imam).

Article 5
Velayat Faghih continues until appearance of the absent Imam (Mehdi).

Article 12
The official religion is Islam and faith in the twelve imams and this principle is never changeable. Penalty for changing this is execution.

Article 13
Only followers of three other religions are recognized as minorities (who do not have equal rights with the Muslims believing in twelve imams). The rest are infidels and deprived from all civil rights and killing them is indisputable.

The Islamic Penal Code

Article 207
A Muslim who has killed a non-Muslim has impunity unless only subject to paying fines.

Article 222
A sane person who has killed an insane person has impunity.

Article 220
A father or grand father who kills his child or grand child has impunity. (But, a five-year-old child, who kills some one, is punishable – page 152 ….)

Article 201
A thief, the first time must get his/her four fingers of the right hand cut. The second time, he/she must get his left feet cut from below the tarsus. The third time he must be convicted to imprisonment, and fourth time, even if he steals in the prison, his conviction must be execution.

Article 186
Followers of a group who take armed action against the God’s government (the Tehran regime), even if not involved in the military branch, are considered combatant with God and corrupt on the earth and their punishment is execution.

Article 630
A man, who notices his wife in intercourse with another man, can concurrently kill both of them.

Article 210
A military infidel who intentionally kills another military infidel is not punishable.




Reuters wrote:

Iranian dissident holds court at Hollywood party
(Reuters)

11 August 2006
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060811/people_nm/iran_hollywood_dc_3

LOS ANGELES - Just months after being freed from nearly six years in Iran’s feared Evin prison, Iran’s most prominent dissident, Akbar Ganji, found himself guest of honour in a Hollywood producer’s mansion.

A small, soft-spoken man who staged an 80-day hunger strike while in jail, Ganji appeared humble but unruffled on Thursday night as he stood among the Frank Stella paintings at the home of former Orion Pictures chief Mike Medavoy.

Invited by Medavoy and actor Sean Penn to meet the Hollywood heavyweights while on a visit to the United States, he debated foreign policy with the likes of billionaire media mogul Haim Saban and was even asked which foods he missed most while on hunger strike.

“After 10 or 15 days you stop feeling hungry,” he said.

His interpreter was not so relaxed. When actor-producer Warren Beatty jumped up to ask a question at the end of an hour-long speech by Ganji, she said, “Is that Warren Beatty? My God.”

The actor-filmmaker asked Ganji whether Americans were taking Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad seriously enough.

“Are we too afraid of what he says?” Beatty asked about the man who has said the Middle East’s problems could be solved if Israel were destroyed.

Ganji replied: “You should not be afraid. ... It is us Iranians who should be. They can’t do much against you ... But (the Iranian government) deprived us of human rights. They subject us to terror.”

But his criticisms of Israel sparked some controversy. Ganji asserted that the formation of Israel in 1948 resulted in the displacement of Palestinians who are now seeking the right of return, an issue, he said, that the Jewish state should deal with.

When Medavoy suggested that his views on the Mideast were not going over so well, Ganji responded that he believed in Israel’s right to exist and the need for peace.

Ganji, a journalist, was released last March after serving nearly six years in prison, mostly in isolation, on charges of ”collecting confidential information harmful to the nation and spreading propaganda against the Islamic system.”

Penn said that when he visited Iran he was told to see Ganji but could not because he was in jail. “I was told he was the free voice of Iran,” Penn said.


Time wrote:

The Dissident Goes to Hollywood
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1225457,00.html

Iranian journalist Akbar Ganji, in the U.S. to gain support for his reform movement, strikes a chord among the celebrity set
By JEFFREY RESSNER/BEVERLY HILLS
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Posted Thursday, Aug. 10, 2006
Iranian dissident writer Akbar Ganji was speaking to an audience of about 80 people Wednesday night, when a good-looking, older fellow in a white windbreaker started to ask something from the back of the room. The question, delivered thoughtfully and without pause, concerned the fierce, saber-rattling rhetoric of Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. Suddenly, Ganji's interpreter went ashen-faced. "My god!" she said aloud. "Is that Warren Beatty?"

Yes, it was. Beatty, along with wife Annette Bening — as well as Sean Penn, Brad Pitt and others — had gathered at the palatial home of legendary producer Mike Medavoy to hear the investigative journalist speak about the current state of the Middle East and, specifically, Iran. Only recently released from an Iranian prison after serving a six-year sentence for "harming national security" and "spreading propaganda," Ganji, 47, is barnstorming the U.S. this summer to gain support for his reformist movement. He declined an invitation to the White House last month, claiming he doesn't represent a specific opposition party or faction. But this week, he seemed right at home in Hollywood.

Until, that is, he began speaking about Israel. Perhaps still smarting from Mel Gibson's drunken anti-semitic rant, Ganji seemed to hit a raw nerve when he appeared to equate Jewish (and Christian) fundamentalists with Islamic extremists. "The U.S. has to stop its one-sided support of Israel," said Ganji, speaking in a large screening room adorned with an original Jasper Johns and other post-modernist art. That comment and others raised the hackles of many in attendance, including multibillionaire media mogul Haim Saban, who asked, "When was the last time you saw a Christian or a Jew put a belt around their stomach, go on a bus, and kill innocent women and children?"

For the most part, however, the crowd listened in earnest to the articulate and occasionally poetic Ganji, who alternated between sounding like a pragmatic realist and a utopian hippie as he spoke of disarming the world's nuclear weapons to enjoy peace, love and understanding. He was almost dismissive of Ahmadinejad, claiming the Iranian president has no real power other than as the mouthpiece of the country's Supreme Leader. "Ahmadinejad says he wants to destroy Israel — can anyone believe that joke?" asked Ganji. "These are empty slogans to appeal to the masses... You shouldn't be that afraid, but we [Iranians] should be afraid." Ganji's main fear, it seems, revolves around Iran's use of black-market nuclear material, which he believes could result in a Chernobyl-type environmental disaster in his homeland.

Penn, who helped organize the event, said he had heard of Ganji constantly when he visited the Middle East and wrote up his trip as a five-part series for the San Francisco Chronicle. "I like anybody who makes me say what I think — he does," said Penn. As the discussion ended later in the evening, the Hollywood crowd mingled around, soaking in all that they had heard. But at least one person in the room had another agenda in mind. "Let's go see Warren Beatty!" said Ganji's interpreter excitedly, as she corralled her charge and led him out to the hallway where they posed with the actor for a photo.


Radio Farda wrote:



http://www.radiofarda.com/iran_article/2006/8/f1500d3d-d74a-4c76-a083-ae6b1ee751b8.html

در این سخنان که آقای گنجی آن را «جبهه سوم» خواند، وی از خدایی گفت که صدایش در میان انفجار بمب و فریاد انسان های بی گناه خاورمیانه گم شده است. وی شعار نابودی اسرائیل را شعاری بی ربط دانست و تاکید کرد فلسطینی ها و یهودی ها هر دو حق حیات و بهره مندی از کشور و دولتی مستقل دارند. آقای گنجی تاکید کرد جنگ و بحران خاورمیانه دو علت دارد؛ یکی مساله فلسطینی و اسرائیل و دیگری نبود دموکراسی در منطقه.

او یادآوری کرد صلح در گروی دموکراسی است، اما دموکراسی با جنگ به دست نمی آید و یک بار دیگر بر این مساله تاکید کرد که تنها راه ایجاد صلح، همین است که همه خلع سلاح شوند. آقای گنجی همچنین گفت: خاورمیانه امروز قربانی حکومت های منطقه ای خودکامه، بنیادگرایان دینی و دخالت های ناسنجیده دولت های خارجی است.
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Questions To Ask : Pro Hezbollah IslamoFascist Taazi Occupiers Of Iran Releasing Taazi Reformist, Allowing to Write Book From Prison (Ganji ...), Kill Freedom Loving Secular Activist (Akbar Mohamadi ..) and Arrest (Batebi ...) ?

Roozbeh Farahanipour, head of the Westwood-based MPG Party wrote:
Roozbeh Farahanipour, head of the Westwood-based MPG Party, or Iranians for a Secular Republic, questioned how a political prisoner could manage to issue writings from jail — and after release, obtain a visa and embark on a global tour. Other critics accuse him of cooperating with the Islamic regime's persecution of dissidents in the revolution's early years.

"We are trying to show the international community that he is a fake figure trying to keep this regime safe," Farahanipour said.


Agree with Mr. Roozbeh Farahanipour statement.


Ganji wrote:
He said he was a member of the Revolutionary Guards for only a few years, initially supporting the revolution for the same reason millions of other Iranians did: as a populist uprising against the oppressive regime of the late Shah Mohammed Reza Pahlavi. He also supported the Iranian regime during its eight-year war against Iraq as a sign of patriotism, he said.


This statement "Ganji: for the same reason millions of other Iranians did" is the proof that he has very bad judgement , justify his past mistakes and he puts himself in the same category of uneducated villagers that they have been deceived by Mullahs and Islam. This is called shameful dishonesty and he is considered as another opportunist that changes his direction with winds .

Quote:
President Bush hailed his valiance and called for his release, authorizing $75 million in funding this year to support Iran's democratic opposition.

But Ganji, a former member of the Revolutionary Guards who is now regarded as one of Iran's leading journalists and dissidents, has come to California to deliver what may seem a counterintuitive message: Leave Iran alone.

In interviews, talks with scholars and an appearance last week at a celebrity-studded gathering sponsored by actor Sean Penn and producer Mike Medavoy, Ganji pressed his view that U.S. military intervention and funding of dissidents would only give the Iranian regime an excuse for further crackdowns. Already, he said, the regime is trying to marginalize the opposition as "foreign agents" and has dramatically increased censorship and other oppressive measures.


Ganji is asking to appease Mullahs and after 100 years the IslamoFascist might change. Don't help opposition to Mullahs and let the regime spend billions of dollars (stolen oil money) for Terror, Torture and killing oppositions. Shame on anyone who agrees with this garbage. He is new Khatami to appease Mullahs and Islam. All Pro Hezbollah followers of Islam in Iran are "Taazi agents" which is much worst than being "foreign agents".

Quote:

Mr. Ganji Statement In Hollywood Party Is Wrong Again

Mr. Ganji Statement In Hollywood Party is wrong again when he stated that the root causes of Middle East problems are Israel (the biggest problem is Islam not Israel) and Lack of democracy (instead of Secular Democracy).

The root causes of problems in the Middle East, creation of IslamoFascist regime 27 years ago, lack of Free Society under Islamic rules. lack of Secular Democracy, Islamic Fascists, Taazi Mullahs, Interference of any kind of Islam (Shiite or Sunni ) in everyday life of people, Neo Colonialist EU3, Russia and China.
The formation of Israel in 1948 is a scapegoat and excuse not to deal with truth, Islam and real problem. Due to the fact that Israel is based on Free Society and Secular Democracy therefore it is in the National Interest of all freedom-loving Iranians that strong Israel would exist and those who do not see this fact should call themselves TAAZI. If we wish to see peace in Middle East, the Pro Hezbollah Occupiers of Iran must be removed from power NOW by any means before it becomes too late. If we wish to live in peace, all religious people from any religions must stay out of Middle East politics and religious Party, and Militia (Hezbollah, Hamas, ….) must become illegal in the Middle East. Due to the fact that majority of people in Israel are secular therefore their people are the biggest friends of future FREE Iran and they will be considered as the most reliable friend.

There is no historical fact available that supports the Inclusion of all segments of society within the context of Islam and Islamic Democracy does not exist and it is just an illusion.
Today it is well known fact that Islam as defined by Prophet Mohammad with nine wives and his marriage with 9 year old girl (child) is rejecting all basic rights within Free Society as we all agree and respect….
Due to the fact that respect for Women Rights and Human Rights within the context of Islam does not exist therefore these are just slogan by those who wish to deceive public and appease Islamofascist regime for personal agenda.
Islam can not be reformed and it is the biggest issue for peace.






Supporting Evidence:


1) Islamist Security Forces beat and arrest peaceful women protesters at free political prisoners rally in Iran. (Source Reuters 12 Jul 2005 15:17:27 GMT http://activistchat.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=6491 )
According to reports from 4 different sources to Radio Yaran (*1) four Islamic plain cloth officers of the dreaded security forces savagely beat to death a 50 plus year old woman in front of Tehran University. Her only crime was to shout “FREEDOM”.
(*1) Radio Yaran is an opposition radio, based in LA, broadcasting news and information to Iran.

2) Ms. Zahra Kazemi, a Canadian-Iranian photojournalist, was arrested on June 23, 2003 and was savagely raped and barbarically beaten to death by Islamic regime officials. (Source: http://activistchat.com/petition2.html )

3) Over the past 27 years the Islamic clerical regime's agents, courts, judges and vigilantes have all committed acts of murder, stoning, torture, assault, theft, destruction of property, arson, perjury, falsification of testimonials and material evidence, illegal surveillance, kidnapping, rape, blackmail, fraud, obstruction of justice, conspiracy to commit all of the above crimes, cover-ups and every other form of butchery and depredation.

4) The Islamic Clerical Regime has executed over 150,000 political prisoners and freedom-loving Iranians in less than 2 decades.

5) Petition 8: Save Nazanin - With Over 200,000 Signatures[By Miss World Canada Nazanin Afshin-Jam]

6) Petition 33: Save Malak Ghorbany from Death by Public Stoning [Lily Mazahery]

and countless other examples.

To stay silent and remain indifferent in the face of these barbaric atrocities and danger is indeed a sin for the believers and a cowardly act for the non-believers.


Some articles of the laws of the Islamic Republic

The Islamic Constitution

Article 2
Foundation of legislation is God, Source of laws is Quran, and life style is that of the prophet (Mohammad) and his family, meaning Imam traditions, Guardian Juriscouncil “Velaayat Faghih” – Khamenei_ is the illustrator of the laws.

Article 4
All legislatures must be within the standards of Islam by approval of Imam and the Guardian Council (appointed by imam).

Article 5
Velayat Faghih continues until appearance of the absent Imam (Mehdi).

Article 12
The official religion is Islam and faith in the twelve imams and this principle is never changeable. Penalty for changing this is execution.

Article 13
Only followers of three other religions are recognized as minorities (who do not have equal rights with the Muslims believing in twelve imams). The rest are infidels and deprived from all civil rights and killing them is indisputable.

The Islamic Penal Code

Article 207
A Muslim who has killed a non-Muslim has impunity unless only subject to paying fines.

Article 222
A sane person who has killed an insane person has impunity.

Article 220
A father or grand father who kills his child or grand child has impunity. (But, a five-year-old child, who kills some one, is punishable – page 152 ….)

Article 201
A thief, the first time must get his/her four fingers of the right hand cut. The second time, he/she must get his left feet cut from below the tarsus. The third time he must be convicted to imprisonment, and fourth time, even if he steals in the prison, his conviction must be execution.

Article 186
Followers of a group who take armed action against the God’s government (the Tehran regime), even if not involved in the military branch, are considered combatant with God and corrupt on the earth and their punishment is execution.

Article 630
A man, who notices his wife in intercourse with another man, can concurrently kill both of them.

Article 210
A military infidel who intentionally kills another military infidel is not punishable.



Los Angeles Times wrote:

Iranian Dissident Urges Caution

August 13, 2006
Los Angeles Times
Teresa Watanabe

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-me-ganji13aug13,1,4272570.story?coll=la-headlines-politics&ctrack=1&cset=true

For six long years, Akbar Ganji wasted away in an Iranian jail, suffering torture and solitary confinement for promoting democracy and criticizing leaders of the Islamic Republic of Iran. An 80-day hunger strike badly weakened him.

President Bush hailed his valiance and called for his release, authorizing $75 million in funding this year to support Iran's democratic opposition.

But Ganji, a former member of the Revolutionary Guards who is now regarded as one of Iran's leading journalists and dissidents, has come to California to deliver what may seem a counterintuitive message: Leave Iran alone.

In interviews, talks with scholars and an appearance last week at a celebrity-studded gathering sponsored by actor Sean Penn and producer Mike Medavoy, Ganji pressed his view that U.S. military intervention and funding of dissidents would only give the Iranian regime an excuse for further crackdowns. Already, he said, the regime is trying to marginalize the opposition as "foreign agents" and has dramatically increased censorship and other oppressive measures.

The most promising path to democracy in the Middle East, he said, is to resolve the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and eliminate the poverty, desperation and despotic governments that he said have allowed extremism to flourish.

"We have to change the regime through our own challenges and struggles," said Ganji, 46, a short, slight man who was released from prison five months ago. "The U.S. cannot do it for us."

He added, however, that Americans can help their cause by promoting greater contacts with Iran through technological, cultural and educational exchanges.

Now a worldwide symbol of free speech and human rights, Ganji has won several press freedom awards. He declined a White House invitation to meet with President Bush, saying the timing wasn't right, but is set for audiences with Pope Benedict XVI and other global figures later in the tour. At the celebrity gathering last week, Penn — who traveled to Iran last year to observe its national elections — touted Ganji for "the courage and will to speak for people who didn't have a voice."

But in Los Angeles, where the largest population of Iranians outside Iran resides, Ganji is not universally embraced. The community here, known as "Irangeles," includes some of the nation's most vocal advocates of aggressive steps to topple the Islamic regime.

Some of them still view Ganji with suspicion for his early involvement with the Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini's Revolutionary Guards and question his reformist credentials.

Roozbeh Farahanipour, head of the Westwood-based MPG Party, or Iranians for a Secular Republic, questioned how a political prisoner could manage to issue writings from jail — and after release, obtain a visa and embark on a global tour. Other critics accuse him of cooperating with the Islamic regime's persecution of dissidents in the revolution's early years.

"We are trying to show the international community that he is a fake figure trying to keep this regime safe," Farahanipour said.

Ganji himself adamantly denies ever committing any human rights abuses. He said he was a member of the Revolutionary Guards for only a few years, initially supporting the revolution for the same reason millions of other Iranians did: as a populist uprising against the oppressive regime of the late Shah Mohammed Reza Pahlavi. He also supported the Iranian regime during its eight-year war against Iraq as a sign of patriotism, he said.

"I'm proud of my past and I can defend it morally," Ganji said. Such questions were also put to Ganji at a UCLA meeting last week among mostly Iranian scholars and intellectuals, according to Hossein Hedjazi, a popular talk show host and program director for KIRN-AM (670), known as Radio Iran. Hedjazi said he concluded that there was no evidence to back up the suspicions, and he appealed to Iranian Americans to refrain from fighting with each other.

"We have been entangled in conspiracy theories for decades, even centuries, in Iran and we've suffered for it," Hedjazi said, adding that Ganji was "very honest and reasonable" with a far better grasp of Iran's current reality than expatriate opposition groups, which he said are out of touch with the homeland.

At the celebrity gathering in Beverly Hills, Ganji received both admiring support for his resistance to the Iranian regime and hard questions about his views on Israel. Ganji spoke through a translator before about 75 people, including actors Warren Beatty, Annette Bening, Brad Pitt, Jake Gyllenhaal and Mark Ruffalo.

Ganji affirmed Israel's right to statehood, condemned suicide bombings and castigated Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's vow to destroy the Jewish state. But he also called for nuclear disarmament of the entire region, a just solution to the Israeli-Palestinian problem and resistance to Islamic, Christian and Jewish fundamentalism, which he said is stoking the regional conflicts.

That drew objections from Haim Saban, a media mogul and Egypt-born Jew who argued that Islamic fundamentalists who kill people with suicide bombings are not morally equivalent to Christian and Jewish extremists, who do not. He also said that Israel needed a nuclear deterrent because it was vastly outnumbered and surrounded by hostile Arabs.

But Ganji, never losing his composure or smile, told Saban that fair play required either everyone to have weapons or no one, and that disarmament was the best choice. "We are all the same and equal," he said.

Ganji does not dwell on details of his life, telling friends that he plans to write an autobiography. A Tehran native, Ganji said only that he became disillusioned with the Islamic regime when he began to see it was no less despotic than the shah's, featuring "executions, violence, injustice."

"We had intended to create a paradise and rather we created a hell," he said.

Ganji's first public criticism of the Islamic regime came in a 1987 article asserting that it was headed toward fascism; he was jailed for six months for it. In the late 1990s, he wrote a series of articles alleging that high government officials were involved in the systematic killing of writers and intellectuals.

He was arrested again in 2000, following his participation in a pro-reform conference in Berlin. He was eventually accused of damaging national security and "spreading propaganda," and given a six-year prison sentence. During his hunger strike, he lost more than 40 pounds and nearly died, according to published statements by his wife.

Nayereh Tohidi, a Cal State Northridge professor of women's studies, said Ganji has distinguished himself with his straight talk and willingness to critique not only the government but also Islamic and Iranian traditions themselves in his advocacy of nonviolent regime change, a secular democratic republic, church-state separation and full civil rights for women and minorities. Last week, for instance, he delivered a speech at UC Berkeley on Iran's "gender apartheid."

"I fear for his safety," Tohidi said, adding that she and others are urging him to delay his return to Tehran as long as possible.

Ganji himself shrugs off any worries about what awaits him back home.

"This is the price we have to pay to defend freedom and democracy," he said, "and I'm ready to do it."


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 1:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Cyrus,

Sometimes the most telling evidence is not what one does or says, but what one does not do or say.

Question: Has Ganji met with any opposition groups or leadership in the US on his trip?

If not, then I submit aside from all other evidence or lack of, that he is no longer a dissident.

End of story.
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