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Committee Formed to Protest the September Trip of A-M to NYC
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Oppenheimer



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2005 8:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Piss and moan, Piss and moan, and if you dodn't have anything to Piss and moan about you wouldn't be happy, would you liberty?

I think a lot of folks would be interested in the context of rules governing diplomatic immunity....but then since all those press briefings sort of showed no decision had been made yet....or the decision has not been made public yet by the US perhaps...then it stands at odds with the article you posted...until confirmed by the US State Dept..

Since they will be the ones making the announcement.......


But you're "not interested"......yeah right. Too much reading for your puny brainpan to absorb? No, I think it's more likely that you arn't even interested..."boring" you called it......I suppose the nuts and bolts of how the law defines the "monkey's" visit doesn't interest you....it just defines the legal premis to arrest the SOB when he gets here. But hey, that's too boring for such a radical revolutionary such as yourself.....HA!

Those that actually are contributing to the Iranian people's freedom may choose to use these post for the useful info they contain.

Pissant.....joke you are...
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 3:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Editorial in Iran's Siyasat-e Ruz


Hurricane Katrina has proved that America cannot solve its internal problems and is incapable of facing these kinds of natural disasters, so it cannot bring peace and democracy to other parts of the world. Americans now understand that their rulers are only seeking to fulfil their own hegemonistic goals.




Editorial in Iran's Jomhuri-ye Eslami


The devastating waves of Katrina have unmasked the real face of America's profoundly corrupt society, and proved that under the beautiful surface of modern American life, there are decadent thoughts that always try to exploit the situation to fulfil inhuman goals. Although Bush and his team proved their inefficiency in dealing with the disaster, its aftermath proved that America's corrupt system is the main culprit.
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Liberty Now !



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 12:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

you're just RUDE, Oppenheimer.

what's wrong with you?
all I said was:

Quote:
maybe we should take the long boring documents to another thread, this one's about the rally in NY.


By the way regime's news agency announced that Haddad Adel will get visa to U.S!

anyone knows what's really happening in terms of visas for ahmadinejad's team?
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 12:43 am    Post subject: ASARE TARIKHI our historical monuments will be gone forever! Reply with quote

It is absolutely devastating to learn our historical sites will be destroyed for ever !!! Islamic regime tries to change our identity, from one of the first civilised nations in the world, authors of the First Human Rights declaration, the first nation with Flag, Postal system and High-Ways to an Islamic Arab barbarian nation !!!!
Islamic regime have been providing Syria with free petrol and gas for almost 25 years !!! providing help and support (including student scholarships) to Palestinians and Lebanese !!! Providing huge money and weapon to Palestinians !!! while our own nation are suffering and many living under the line of poverty.
Despite all these helps on all Arab meetings Syria, Lebanon and Palestine are the first who sign declaration that IRAN HAS TO LEAVE THE OCCUPIED ISLANDS (the number has reached five islands now???!!!) and Persian Gulf should be called Arabian Gulf !!!???

ZE SHIRE SHOTOR KHORDANO SOSMAR ARAB RA BEDANJA KESHIDAST KAR KE TAJE KIANI KONAD AREZO! TOFO BAR TO EY CHARKHE GARDOON TOFO !

Islamic clergy have their root in shia countries like Lebanon and Iraq (read history of the Safavi Dynasty in Iran to learn about the root of clergy AKHONDS in Iran).
Khomeini himself was originally Indian (read his biography published by ERSHADE ESLAMI).
How can we expect them feel responsibility towards our historical buildings coming from thousands of year?
But, we are responsible towards our future generations and towards our children.
Please do whatever you can to stop this ignorant thing to happen.
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Oppenheimer



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 2:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Liberty,

I cannot tread lightly by any means, nor can I be anything but honest in my assessment...you either make the concious choice to be part of the solution, or choose to be a part of the problem....so far from what I've seen you post....you are not part of any solution whatsoever.

You expect people to take you seriously, but you fail to see how you undermine your own credibility....Well it's posted for your enlightenment.

This isn't about you, this is about results, and you arn't helping....there's way too much at stake for both our peoples for me to tolerate your ingnorance in silence.

Why do I post "long, boring" texts from interviews of US officials?

1. Because you won't get their remarks in context reading the news.

2. Because the Iranian opposition must work with others to achieve their goal of a free Iran. Including the EU and US, as painful for you as that may be to accept....

3. Because the information is essential to understanding the state of play in US policy at this time.

4. Because I'm not about to take the mullah's word for anything, incuding the subject of visas. Or your word on it too for that matter, obviously you don't have much of a clue, and simply regurgitate press reports instead of questioning the source, or trying to find another source that will corroborate it, before posting.

When I get the notice regarding visa status in my in-box, then I'll post it.
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Oppenheimer



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 2:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear kambiz,

Regarding Cyrus the Great's tomb, and other historic sites....I agree with your eloquent assesment of these sites impotance to the global community, as well as to the Iranian people's cultural memory and historical legacy...

What I'm not sure about is to what extent these sites are actually at risk from these dam projects...I just don't have enough site info to draw on, the topography, the dam designs, the expected areas to be flooded...etc.

However, I can offer the following address to send this info to, and I hope you'll find it helpful.

Once you have the info compiled to send, I suggest you make a phone call, talk to a desk officer in person, and advise them you are sending the info via email.

My guess is they will very much appreciate complete, accurate documentation along with your request to look into the matter.

Regards,

Oppie


Cultural Heritage Center
Bureau of Educational and Cultural Affairs
U.S. Department of State, SA-44
301 4th St., S.W., Room 334
Washington, D.C. 20547
tel: (202) 453-8800
fax: (202) 260-4893
e-mail: ecapc@state.gov
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 3:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

His visa application to address the UN in New York this September is under State Dept. review pending the outcome of an ongoing investigation into his role in the Iran hostage crisis, as well as targeted assassinations in Europe, and his self confessed putting the coup de grace bullet into many a tortured political prisoner. Under normal circumstances a foreign leader would be granted visa, but this is not a normal situation, even as the president "expects" that the unelected leader of Iran will be granted visa to attend the September UN Summit, it will just as well be an appropriate time to serve notice on the IRI and its leadership directly, face to face in the forum of nations. Koffe Annan has alluded to this directly if the enrichment is not halted.

I know that there will be many disgusted Iranians if his visa is approved...but consider what I said above, that it will be just as well an appropriate time to serve notice on the IRI and its leadership directly, face to face in the forum of nations.

In the US, law states that the accused may answer his accusers....it won't be possible if the monkey isn't present and accounted for....nor will it be deemed fair play for him not to have had the opportunity, if sanctions are ultimately placed on the IRI.

Hope folks will consider this logic if he is given visa, and have a peaceful protest.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Daily Press Briefing
Sean McCormack, Spokesman
Washington, DC
September 7, 2005

(excerpt)

MR. MCCORMACK: George.

QUESTION: Iran. The visa granted to the Iranian President supposedly?

MR. MCCORMACK: Yes. I have some information for you. Yesterday -- just to back
up, I have a few details for you.

On August 5th, the Iranian Mission at the United Nations officially requested a
visa for the President of Iran to travel to New York to participate in a
high-level event -- a high-level summit -- in connection with the 60th UN
General Assembly meeting in September that's going to take place in New York
from September 13th through the 18th.

The request was adjudicated according to standard procedures and applicable
U.S. law, and yesterday, a visa was issued in Bern, Switzerland. The decision
to allow President Ahmadi-Nejad as Iranian head of government to travel to the
UN is in keeping with past practice and in accordance with our obligations
under the UN Headquarters Agreement. The decision to allow President
Ahmadi-Nejad to come to the UN is something that we did strictly according to
our applicable laws.

This in no way indicates a change in U.S. views or policy towards the Iranian
Government.

QUESTION: When this issue first came up over a month ago, we were told that,
well, we have to take into account our obligations under the Headquarters
Agreement but there were also foreign policy considerations involved as well.
That was a month ago. Now, how did you -- I guess you came out on the side of
the Headquarters Agreement, but were foreign policy considerations taken into
account and was it a close call?

MR. MCCORMACK: Well, I can try to fill you on in some of the facts.

QUESTION: Okay.

MR. MCCORMACK: What happened was that in looking at the application of the
Iranian President, we found Mr. Ahmadi-Nejad ineligible for a visa under
Immigration and Nationality Act, INA, Section 212(a)(3)(B). At the State
Department's request, the Department of Homeland Security waived this
ineligibility to allow the Iranian President as Iranian head of government to
attend the General Assembly and high-level summit. The ineligibility under 212
(a)(3)(B) applies, when we have, "reason to believe," that the visa applicant
is within the scope of that broad provision covering a wide range of past and
present activity that is supportive or in furtherance of terrorist activity.
The INA requires that we keep visa records confidential. And as a matter of
normal procedures, we don't discuss particular details of visa adjudications.

And I will say that our concerns about information suggesting that President
Ahmadi-Nejad was involved in the hostage crisis is a matter of public record.
We take these allegations very seriously and it is the responsibility of the
Iranian Government to address them. We renew our call on the Iranian Government
to do so.

Yes.

QUESTION: Just as a follow-up, have you found out -- you've been investigating
this for a month or more. Have you found anything to substantiate those
allegations?

MR. MCCORMACK: Again, under 212(a)(3)(B), we did find Mr. Ahmadi-Nejad
ineligible. We then requested a waiver of that ineligibility finding and a visa
was issued. There are still unresolved questions concerning his activities
surrounding the taking of the American Embassy in Tehran and his activities in
that subsequent period in which American citizens were held for 444 days. We
have not forgotten that. And we call upon the Iranian Government to clarify and
to answer these questions that have yet to be answered.

Yes.

QUESTION: Sean, you have your own investigation. The U.S. Government has its
own investigation. Where is that and do you think that that's just going to be
open-ended unless answers come from Tehran?

MR. MCCORMACK: Like I said, there are still unresolved questions. And part of
the constraint in talking about visa applications is no matter who makes that
visa application is that we cannot talk about the details surrounding that. And
certainly -- but certainly, the -- our investigations across the U.S.
Government all fed in to this decision-making process. I am not at liberty to
detail for you what was found as part of those investigations, and the part of
the information that went into the process of reviewing this application also
included the interviews with former hostages. But again, I can't get into the
details of, you know, of this investigation.

QUESTION: I'm not asking about the visa. I'm asking about the investigation.

MR. MCCORMACK: Right. Exactly. But again, the reason why that comes up is, in
the context of this visa application, and inasmuch as that was part of the
process for looking at this application, I just can't get into it.

QUESTION: But have you -- I mean, can you answer questions that we've gone over
before, like have you done interviews now with the hostages?

MR. MCCORMACK: We have done -- we have done interviews with the former
hostages, yes. I can't say with all of them, but we have done interviews with
former hostages, yes.

QUESTION: And which -- do you say the information gathering in your
investigation is complete and you do not yet have an answer?

MR. MCCORMACK: I would say that the information gathering is incomplete, and
it's incomplete for the simple reason that the Iranian Government has not
answered remaining questions about his activities during this period.

QUESTION: But you have not ruled out the possibility he was one of the
hostage-takers?

MR. MCCORMACK: You know, again, I think that there are still open questions
concerning his activities during that period, and those questions have been
raised by a variety of different individuals, including former hostages. There
are questions that remain and we call upon the Iranian Government to answer
those questions.

QUESTION: Is the Secretary responsible for making that decision on the waiver?

MR. MCCORMACK: Yes. To request the waiver.

QUESTION: On what basis?

MR. MCCORMACK: On what basis?

QUESTION: What did she decide to ask for a waiver?

MR. MCCORMACK: We have -- you know, after reviewing the application, we, as I
said, in accordance with our obligations under the UN Headquarters Agreement,
we have never decide -- we decided to request a waiver of this ineligibility.
We have never denied a visa to a head of government or head of state visiting
the UN. It's part of our international obligations. I think if you look back at
the history, one example, well there are numerous examples that are out there,
in terms of heads of state or government that have been granted a visa even
though there were some questions surrounding the issuance of that visa.

Yes.

QUESTION: A small question. Why Switzerland? Why in Bern?

MR. MCCORMACK: I would have to look into -- we would have to look into that for
you.

QUESTION: Okay.

MR. MCCORMACK: I don't have --

QUESTION: They're a protecting power.

MR. MCCORMACK: Well, Switzerland is our protecting power and we use the Swiss
Government to have diplomatic communications with the Iranian Government.

QUESTION: Still on this?

MR. MCCORMACK: Yes.

QUESTION: What are the restrictions on his visa? Is he allowed to go anywhere
outside of New York City? How long? I know that their length of stay is granted
on the border, not by the State Department, but --

MR. MCCORMACK: It's for the -- it's for the period of the high-level summit at
the UN General Assembly. And Mr. Ahmadi-Nejad will be subject to the 25-mile
travel restriction applied to all Iranians entering the United States for UN
business.

QUESTION: While we're on a subject like that, do you know if the Secretary's
planning to talk to a lot of European and Arab Middle East leaders about Syria
and Lebanon and Iraq and related issues. Do you know if Assad of Syria, who
apparently is going to the UN, will be invited to the meeting? Do you happen to
know?

MR. MCCORMACK: I don't think there are any plans for the Secretary to meet with
President Assad.

QUESTION: Thanks.

MR. MCCORMACK: Yes.

QUESTION: After the Secretary requested the waiver, who was the -- or what was
the agency that approved it? Was it DHS or --

MR. MCCORMACK: DHS, yes. As a matter of the procedure, they are the ones that
issue the waivers. We here at the State Department request the waiver.

Yes, Elise.

QUESTION: New subject?

MR. MCCORMACK: You have one on this, Samir?

QUESTION: Iran.

MR. MCCORMACK: Well, on the issue of the visa or on --

QUESTION: Yes, the visas.

MR. MCCORMACK: Okay.

QUESTION: Do you have any comment on why the U.S. denied the speaker of Iranian
parliament to come to the UN?

MR. MCCORMACK: I will get you something on that.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 2005 11:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Support the Campaign Against Ahmadinejad's Presence at UN

SMCCDI (Urgent Action)
September 8, 2005

Dear Iranians, Dear Iranian-Americans, Dear Freedom Lovers,


The unpopular Islamic republic regime is a theocratic
system of governance which is a notorious Human Rights
abuser and a main sponsor of terror. Its newly appointed
President, Mahmood Ahmadi-Nejad, is an ultra-Islamist who's
well known for his past terrorist and executioner
activities.
As an Islamist militiaman, Ahmadinejad is known for having
killed tens of Iranians and for his participation in
supervising hit squads, he was sent abroad to kill
dissidents. He has been identified by several former US
hostages and Mr. Simpson of BBC as one of the participants
in the take over of the US embassy in Tehran which resulted
in the hostage taking of 52 American diplomats for 444
days.

Such an individual is planning to put his feet on New
York's soil and to make a speech at the UN as the
representative of the 'Iranian Nation' on September 14th!!!


What a shame!!!
Where is the outrage!!!


IT'S IN REACTION to such masquerade that the Movement along
with several other Iranian secularist groups has founded
the "Iran UN Protest 2005" (IUNP2005). The purpose of such
an inclusive and non-ideological coalition is to denounce
the persistent Human Rights abuses in Iran and to seek the
world's moral pressure for helping Iranians to free
themselves from the illegitimate and tyrannical rule of the
Islamic republic regime and the likes of Ahmadinejad.

The UN building and its windows MUST SHAKE from the outcry
of Iranians at the very same moment that Ahmadinejad, the
killer and terrorist, is going to speak in their name!!!
The entire world should witness that millions are opposing
an illegitimate regime which is usurping Iran's chair at
the UN!!!

Ahmadinejad should not be able to deliver the usual regime
type of monologue without the opportunity for Iranians and
every concerned Iranian-Americans and Americans to denounce
him and his tyrannical and terrorist regime!!!

No!!! We must all support such historic opportunity!!!
We must all transform the illegitimate presence of Islamic
regime's spokeman into a massive show of rejection and
protest!!!


In that line, the SMCCDI has obtained a permit for protest
by the UN for the date of September 14th from 09:00 AM
until 05:00 PM. Such a privilege has been transferred to
the IUNP2005 Coalition and several TV and radio programs
have been organized so far for a massive mobilization of
Iranians and Iranian-Americans. Tens of travels have been
made by the Movement's members for a better coordination of
the coalition.

A lot has been done but more travels, meetings, TV and
radio programs and advertisements are needed!!!


For such purpose and more than ever, the SMCCDI needs your
financial help of any amount for continuing its operation
related to helping the coordination and promotion of the
INUP2005 Coalition.

Such support is crucial!!!
Millions of Iranians who boycotted the last sham elections
are looking for Iranians abroad to organize a massive
protest in order to echo their expression of rejection of
the Islamic regime!!!


Help SMCCDI to be able to push such agenda in the frame of
its activity within the "Iran UN Protest 2005" Coalition!!!

We need your help so we can help millions and maybe
yourself....
Help us and help your countrymen by investing a moment of
your time and some of your financial possibility!!!

MAKE US YOUR DONATION OF ANY AMOUNT via the secure and well
known "PayPal Internet Banking System" by visiting the
SMCCDI Contact page located at:
http://daneshjoo.org/article/publish/cat_index_35.shtml
(Then CLICK on the PayPal logo in order to access the
donation page for SMCCDI).


Visit the Movement's "Media & Official Feedbacks" and
"Supporters Feedbacks" to evaluate some of the SMCCDI's
actions and achievements:
http://daneshjoo.org/article/publish/cat_index_36.shtml
http://www.daneshjoo.org/article/publish/cat_index_34.shtml


Help us to continue our action and the fight for all!
We need your support!!!

Thanks for your kind contribution and responsible action!

Together We Stand!
Divided We Fall!


The "Student Movement Coordination Committee for Democracy
in Iran" (SMCCDI)


http://www.daneshjoo.org/article/publish/article_3327.shtml
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