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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

10- Without obstacles or with severe obstacles we will remove
The Islamic Regime and Restore a Parliamentary
Monarchy and a New Monarch Family will be introduced
to replace the former Prince
.

^ that's the part that disgusts me

We will choose our leader AS A NATION through a referendum

What the hell are they talking about " A new Family??" will replace the Monarch??
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

blank wrote:
10- Without obstacles or with severe obstacles we will remove
The Islamic Regime and Restore a Parliamentary
Monarchy and a New Monarch Family will be introduced
to replace the former Prince
.

^ that's the part that disgusts me

We will choose our leader AS A NATION through a referendum

What the hell are they talking about " A new Family??" will replace the Monarch??



Dear Blank and Pantea
I agree 100% with you.
Long live Reza Shah II, Long live Shahbanou Farah, our national pride is our imperial family, long live Pahlavi dynesty


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Subject: Support for Iranian Monarchists on Lufthansa Flight


Dear Belgium Embassy

As an Iranian American I strongly support the peaceful action of the group of Iranian Monarchists on board the Lufthansa flight to your country, on March 10th. Their protest action against the barbaric and inhuman regime of the despised Mullahs whom are supported and sponsored by the EU, Russia and China, is justifiable and important in view of the far greater crimes against humanity that your government and the rest of the European Union have turned a blind eye to.

Their act of civil disobedience has been peaceful, and their protest against terrorism, and the brutal Mullahcracy in Iran is in the interest of global peace and democracy. I implore you to be lenient in the treatment and judgment of these individuals, who have given up their homes, jobs and families to carry out this action in keeping with their peaceful and caring conscience and beliefs. Thank-you

Sincerely
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 11:30 pm    Post subject: Liberty Now ! Reply with quote

Just as I was wondering:

how come we Iranians are so quiet about all this EU support for TERRORIST AYATOLLAHS' REGIME?????

This comes as a nice surprise; much needed at this time.

Where are the good Iranian people of Europe to support these guys?

How come every action dies out so fast, and is not continued by new groups to take over from there and carry on the freedom flag high?

What makes these actions effective is Persistance
so where are the other groups and so called oppositions???


when it comes to EU they all take the back seat!

Are most of our "opposition leaders" EU agents, or what.

you never hear them call for a protest against EU, especially the leftists, socialists, and human rights groups.

CAN'T THEY SEE THAT EUROPE LIES, AND IS ACTUALLY SUPPORTING CRIMES AGANIST HUMANITY, FOR ITS ECONOMIC GAINS?

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 5:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

blank wrote:
10- Without obstacles or with severe obstacles we will remove
The Islamic Regime and Restore a Parliamentary
Monarchy and a New Monarch Family will be introduced
to replace the former Prince
.

^ that's the part that disgusts me

We will choose our leader AS A NATION through a referendum

What the hell are they talking about " A new Family??" will replace the Monarch??


I heard fooladvand wants to be king himself Laughing it's like Enqelab eslami, when everybody wanted to be king.

now he's claiming the Lufthansa action is his, he keeps bragging about it, it's all: me, me, me, me.........

no matter, I don't support him, but I do support our brothers and sisters who actually went on the airplane Wink

by the way has anybody heard anything about them? are they released yet?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pantea:

You heard that “he wants to be king himself.” You heard from whom?

Also, as the Brussels action was his, not according to me, but according to all members of Anjoman, what is the point of your sarcasm?

You write, “He KEEPS BRAGGING about it, it's ALL: me, me, me, me......... “ That’s at least four “me’s”. Could you provide at least four statements that you would characterize as bragging?

Whether you support him or not is not my concern. In fact, it is none of my business. However, one’s opinion does become an issue when it involves character assassination, spreading falsehood and baseless rumor.

Blank and IB,

As in the Jebhe Melli anti-monarchist forum these compatriots were immediately labeled as hijackers, it would have been something very positive for non-Iranians worldwide invited to visit this thread, to observe at least ONE community of Iranians, and Iranians against the Islamic Republic at that, solidly and unequivocally behind these activists. It is not too much to ask that given the advantages to be had from the type of positive publicity we have not seen for 26 years, that we show more tact and sense of propriety. Heaven spare us from the self-styled “Iranian activists” living abroad who wouldn’t know priorities if these stared them in the face.

As to the declaration’s tenth statement…

“Without obstacles or with severe obstacles we will remove the Islamic Regime and Restore a Parliamentary Monarchy and a New Monarch Family will be introduced to replace the former Prince. Our New Constitutional Book will govern the future Iran.”

A new Monarch WOULD have to be introduced, wouldn’t it, if Shahzadeh Reza Pahlavi, the rightful heir to the Peacock Throne, shows no interest in assuming the role? Has he shown any interest? Constantly appeasing the republicans such as die hard communists, Islamists, even separatists, while signally refusing to acknowledge, let alone defend, the importance of a Constitutional Monarchy for Iran, it is not difficult to imagine why there are those who, in order to save the crown, are willing to go to this extent to criticize him and to get his attention? Haven't you yourselves expressed some concern with this issue? You know you have.

Dear LN,

I will tell you what I told another member a few weeks ago. Of the so-called and self-styled Iranians living abroad, consider only 25% as exiles. You’ll experience disappointments less frequently. Our problem, as you know, is a cultural, not a political one. How else would we tolerate a presidential candidate who calls our forefathers “barbarians”, how else would we know more about Che Guevara than Babak Khorramdin, how else could one explain all that peroxide during the “news hour”? Pirooz va moafagh bashid.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 2:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is important to see things from the right aspect.
I have several times sent email to Reza Shah II asking him to be more active. However, asking for more activity is very very different from insulting openly on TV like fouladvand is doing.

We should consider foreigners removed Reza Shah kabir and sent him to South Africa. Foreigners also removed Shahanshah Aryamehr from power. Foreigners might also remove Reza Shah II from the scene if he takes the leadership and then we will have no symbol to fight for.

Some very hardcore monarchists may reject Reza Shah II over this but important is to see where is the "average iranian"? Out of Iran´s 70 million people many can neither watch Los Angeles TV:s nor radio israel etc. A few millions have themselves listened to Reza Shah II and Shahbanou Farahs interviews here and then and they in turn have informed their friends etc and hopes rice that one day the son of the Shah may return to Iran.

My guess is that today most of Iran´s 70 million people know about the possibility of the return of Reza Shah II and Shahbanou Farah and the return of monarchy if Iranians vote for a constitutional monarchy in the post IRI referendum.

The average iranian, is today a moderate constitutional monarchist. We saw in Payam TV:s referendum that 98-99% of the Iranians voted for Reza Shah II. There was also a similar referendum on Channelonetv recently which I missed to watch personally but I heard from friends that about 195 of 200 had chosen Reza Shah II as a person to lead the opposition. There were several people who said they are republicans but they trust Reza Shah II most among the political leaders, (holakoo is maybe one example). This fact that Reza Shah II has made himself respected among republicans aswell is a good news for all of us.

The number of extreme rightists who reject Reza Shah II and look for a new imperial family is less than 1 people among 1000. Important is what the average iranian is thinking. This is a difficult thing to do when you get hundereds of telephone calls from supporters every week, it is easy to believe that the average Iranian is like shayan kazemi etc. Today we are not there, but we are closer to there than 1 year ago. But anyway Reza Shah II has been able to find the level of the average iranian despite all strong support that could make anyone believe he is god.

Regarding this aeroplan event I think it was a victory for all of us, because most of the international media said the protest was organized by a group of iranian monarchists, but fortunately the world does not know that it was organized by a fake monarchist named fouladvand.

Regarding fouladvand, in a national view, we have recently seen that 98-99% voted for Reza Shah II which really surprised me because I thought about 70-80% would be. I think we were on a 70-80% level 1-2 years ago and was very surprised to see 98% vote for Reza Shah II in 2 separate referendums, one on Payam TV and the other on ChanneloneTV. The average iranian has definitely moved towards the direction of a constitutional monarchy under Pahlavi dynesty during the last years.

So fouladchi´s constant attacks on our imperial family has not had the effect he has wished. Rather it seems that it has had the opposite effect. I have started to think that many people who had until some months ago been uncertain whether to vote for a monarchy or a republic now has blessed Reza Shah II for taking distance from such ultra extremist monarchists who attack peoples religion, beliefs, their king and everyone who is not a supporter of fouladvand.
Until a month ago I was worried people would we decieved and mislead by fouladvand but now I am beginning to think that what he is doing has increased Reza Shah II´s popularity because people bless Reza Shah II for taking distance from these extremists.


For me personally monarchy vs republic is not the only aspect I think of regarding Irans future:

-I aslo want national unity AFTER the removal of the regime and people should be friends with their neighbours even if they don´t have the same political opinions. People should like each other.

-Once democracy reaches Iran I wish democracy will remain in my homeland forever, there really should not be any internal war in Iran

-I am against any kind of bloodspilling in Iran after the revolution. First of all the death penalty should be removed. Secondly mullahs and pasdars and basijis should NOT be executed or jailed uncontrolled. If anyone has commited a crime, he/she should be judged in a legal court and get a penalty for what they have done.
Yesterday all shahanshahi soldiers were executed, today all pasdars and basijis should not be executed. Otherwise we will have an endless serial of killings and "entegamgiri". Only a limited number of pasdars and basijis have commited crimes and should be put for justice.

-My only "entegamgiri" against JM, communists and mujahedin etc who had a major role in this revolution is to vote against them. That´s all. I vote for Reza Shah II and this way I am putting Jebhe melli etc aside from politics. I would not support anyone who want to jail or punish them because if we jail everyone who played a role 26 years ago in destroying our nation, then we will have an endless serial of entegamgiri and terrorist attacks etc.

So the new revolution of Iran should be based on a national unity.

Reza Shah II is 30 years ahead of all of us regarding democratic thinking. Many of us who have lived in free nations in Europe or USA, still after 26 years havn´t learned the meaning of democracy.

I agree with everything Reza Shah II is saying and Iran under him would be a country of democracy, international respect, progress and economic growth.

Long live the Pahlavi dynesty
Today only unity

Saal no mobarak

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 3:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dear Khorshid,

I heard from a friend of mine from Esfahan, mister fouladvand wanted to be king, if this information is wrong than I'm sorry. Alltough it's not a strange thought. Have they ever considered any other member of the Pahlavi family, in case Reza II refuses??

I heard mister fouladvand talk the other day and he sounds very selfcentered, at least to me. I'm sorry if my opinion offended you, but that's the way he seems to me.

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However, one’s opinion does become an issue when it involves character assassination, spreading falsehood and baseless rumor.


did anyone tell mister fouladvand this when he was insulting our royal family??

Also I don't think it's a good idea to go public with this declaration at such a sensitive time (reffering to the gathering sunday). they don't say anything about a referendum. it sounds like they've already decided for the rest of us. That's no democracy to me.

I don't like him, you do. so lets leave it at that.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right or wrong, if Mr Fooladvand has said he wants to be King (have never heard that) then MORE POWER TO HIM at least he would be saying it as it is and isn't scared of anything.
I believe that Iranians should have the right to chose whoever they think can serve their nation as a King. What I would look at as qualifications are first and foremost PATRIOTISM/BRAVERY, HONESTY, and EDUCATION (to be able to perform his duties as KING).


I also agree that Reza Pahlavi should be doing a lot more than the occasional interviews he is doing at the time being. IMO Shahbanou Farah Pahlavi is being more active! We need a true leader, a leader who can rally people to his/her cause, a leader who if needed is willing to stand up to the mollah's on their homeground, someone who's brave..............


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 2:49 am    Post subject: protest against EU Reply with quote

Belgium police and airport officers :



have Shut off all water supplies to the plane,

they also have shut off the HEAT and left many elderly and CHILDREN in the COLD, only because they were Proud IRANIANS AGAINST EU policies!

EU MEDIA has censored most of the truth about this event.

They claimed not to know what the whole thing was about !!!!!

they lied about giving food to the passengers, while they took all the water and food supplies out of the plane on purpose, and even closed the weter supplies to the washrooms, and left children in absolute COLD overnight!


shame on Belgium and EU officials,

THEY SUPPORT OUR OPPRESSORS, THE TERRORISTS MULLAHS,

THEY HAVE TAKEN OVER OUR LAND, VIA THEIR PUPPET AYATOLLAHS AGENTS,

THEY TAKE THE OIL AND RESOURCES

AND LEAVE OUR CHILDREN IN THE COLD TO DIE OVERNIGHT!

AND OUR NATION IN ABSOLUTE POVERTY,

WHILE THE RICHES OF IRAN ONLY BENEFITS THE EU AND THEIR AYATOLLAHS FRIENDS.

SHAME ON EVERY IRANIAN FOR NOT STANDING UP FOR IRAN AND AGAINST EU.

IRANIAN OPPOSITION HAS MUCH TO LEARN FROM THESE BRAVE IRANIANS' PROTEST.

TIME TO SPEAK UP AGAINST EU,

OR YOU MAY AS WELL SHUT UP , HONORABLE "OPPOSITION"!

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shame on the Greedy EU and Belgium !
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 3:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think with after Reza Pahlavi's smooching up to Khomeini's grandson, and now to the founder of the dreaded Islamic Revotionary Guards, Seyyed Mohsen Sazgara, he deserves every insult that comes to him. His actions are insulting to the entire nation. He doesn't even have the guts to be Prince, let alone king. He has demoted himself to 'citizen'. It is more fitting for him to hang out with the likes of Hojatoleslam Seyyed Hossein Eshraghi and Seyyed Mohsen Sazgara.

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I have several times sent email to Reza Shah II asking him to be more active.


I liked him more when he was less active. At least back then he wasn't supporting the likes of Sazgara.

please sign a petition to support the Belgian protesters and condemn EU's appeasement policies towards Iran: www.anjomane-padeshahi.org/main

Read Aiin e Risheii here and here.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Blank and IB,


As to the declaration’s tenth statement…

“Without obstacles or with severe obstacles we will remove the Islamic Regime and Restore a Parliamentary Monarchy and a New Monarch Family will be introduced to replace the former Prince. Our New Constitutional Book will govern the future Iran.”

A new Monarch WOULD have to be introduced, wouldn’t it, if Shahzadeh Reza Pahlavi, the rightful heir to the Peacock Throne, shows no interest in assuming the role? Has he shown any interest? Constantly appeasing the republicans such as die hard communists, Islamists, even separatists, while signally refusing to acknowledge, let alone defend, the importance of a Constitutional Monarchy for Iran, it is not difficult to imagine why there are those who, in order to save the crown, are willing to go to this extent to criticize him and to get his attention? Haven't you yourselves expressed some concern with this issue? You know you have.


Dear Khorshid:

My question is "why a new Family"?? If RP is not interested then why not have a Queen? like many European countries. Shahbanou should be the head of the state. Until a decision could be made whether Prince AliReza or RP's oldest daughter should be trained for the next head of the state.

To Azadeh:
If you are upset about who RP is associating with, since he doesn't read the chats, you need to write to him directly about exactly what you said here......because he needs to know about people's feelings in regard to his association with different shady groups or support of a wrong referandum.
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My question is "why a new Family"?? If RP is not interested then why not have a Queen? like many European countries. Shahbanou should be the head of the state. Until a decision could be made whether Prince AliReza or RP's oldest daughter should be trained for the next head of the state.


They are even less interested than RP. Have you ever seen any of them show any interest?

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To Azadeh:
If you are upset about who RP is associating with, since he doesn't read the chats, you need to write to him directly about exactly what you said here......because he needs to know about people's feelings in regard to his association with different shady groups or support of a wrong referandum.


I have been e-mailing and faxing him for the past 4 to 5 years. He never answered a single one of them. I doubt he even reads them. Anyways, he doesn't need me to tell him what to do. If he wants to suck up to the founder of the Islamic Revolutionary Guards and Khomeini's mullah grandson, Twisted Evil he is more than welcome to. But I'm out. I care more about Iran.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well you expect Shabanou to run like a candidate and tell everyone I am going to be your Queen if my son doen't want it...that will never happen. Yes, she is not active, as you put it. She does give interviews and send messages from time to time like a Queen should, but she is not the head of any political party, therefore, you will never see her campaigning. The same goes for AliReza. I still believe Shabanou would make a great head of state and the great thing is she dosen't get involved with all the people you dislike, former regime employees.
RP may not read your e-mails but his Secretary or aids do read the letters. They get hundreds of mails I don't think they would/could respond to all, I believe they do respond to the ones from Iran.
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