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PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2004 11:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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and them for the crown jewel we roasted 200,000 of them in their own backyard. Hitting the WTC gave us our excuse.


i think berserker is a very apt name for this american. You seem to be proud of "roasting" 200,000 CIVILIANS. tell me how many soldiers died in that blast? and how many children alone? the fact of the matter was that the japanese were ready to surrender after hiroshima, but the americans HAD to test out another bomb on the innocents of Nagasaki. and you wonder why the world burns american flags... its because you dont care about collateral damage. As long as the cowboys get to "kick ass" in your words th population is satisfied. The world is bigger than america my friend and the established countries of the world know how to deal with actual politics and proffesional war - where soldiers fight soldiers in case you didnt know.

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and after 9-11 we said ENOUGH


the only reason you said enough was because the attacks finally got to you, you didnt care when terrorism was affecting other countries like the terrorist government of iran. but when your precious little bubble was penetrated youve decided you know how to sort out all the worlds problems, with the iron fist under a silk glove of democracy and "liberation". My congratulations on an excellent job done in Afghanistan
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2004 12:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

""the only reason you said enough was because the attacks finally got to you, you didnt care when terrorism was affecting other countries like the terrorist government of iran.""

Thats a crock of ****. We walked on egg shells for 30 years because we didn't want to "upset" certain populations of the world. After 9-11 the risk was too great. Look at the world's bullshit we have to put up with trying to free the people of iraq and afghanistan, and yet all we get is "well what about THESE people, what about THOSE people. Save it, after this it woiuldn't suprise me if the US didn't just let the rest of the world die under the boots of dictators. The grief we got for iraq almost isn't worth the trouble. Don't think that Americans don't feel the plight of oppressed people around the world, we do, but always seem to have to bow to political considerations before we can do anything. The anti war crowd is real good at slowing up the pace of liberations.


Oh yeah, I'm all broken up about the civilian casualties in WWII. They killed civilians in pearl harbor, they killed civilians where ever they stuck their flag of the rising sun. Ever hear of the batan death march? The war crimes they pulled made the Nazis look like boy scouts.

Lets just cut the **** and go the problem. America sends money and aid all over the planet like it's free, yet we have our own poor and needy. The ONE single thing that we do that pisses off the ME is support for Isreal, and its that ONE thing that fuels all the myths, the hate, and the bullshit from the arab world, and now with idiots in europe joining in. We'll support any arab government that treats it's people equally with respect and doesn't decide to kill them off for shits and giggles in the name of some screwed up religion or some other dellusions of power.


Face it, we could have owned the world a dozen times over, yet we always give the countries of the invaders back to them. We left bodies of dead GI's all over this piss poor example of a planet liberating people from their own stupidity. Like it or not, when **** gets REAL serious people look to the US, because we refuse nobody. If you think we're going to let some hold overs from 700AD come screw with us on our own soil and kill 3000 people with no response, then you're out of your mind.

Why is it that NOTHING has come out of the ME worth a **** in the last 1400 years? The birth place of civilization with such an amazing history is dying on the vine. Maybe Europe in their self important wisdom hasn't come to the conclusion that a chain is only as strong as it's weakest link. If THIS planet is going to survive it can't have dead weight, if the planet is going to move foward and have 100% world peace then dictators and oppressive regimes are going to have to become extinct, and the ME is going to have to go modern and step into the 21st century. The planet will NOT stop producing the saddams, the hitlers, the stalins, the pol pots, the idi amins, so what WILL have to change is our determination to pound them the minute they poke their head up and start preaching about their "destiny".

Untill the world stops it's bitching and recognises that 50 million more people are now FREE to choose their own path, and stop trashing the achievment with bullshit slogans like "war for oil" then we have nothing to say. Germany has alot of balls equating bush to hitler, their temper tantrum 60 years ago cost the world an estimated 55 million dead. Europe and it's "established countries" in general has alot balls, they brought us 2 world wars, Fascists, communists, socialists, and general human misery for MOST of their existence in the 20th century, and it was the US that had to help clean it up to the tune of 400,000+ of our own dead. Not that we mind, but europe better get with the program and realise that if it wasn't for us they would be goose stepping and speaking german...OR russian for that matter. You got your libertation, now shut the **** up and let others have theirs. In this day and age it's the ME that needs it.

Why are the people of Iran suffering? The same reason ALOT of people are suffering in the ME and other places, and thats radical islam. Oh yeah, the army of darkness rode right out the 7th century into a modern world like a bad sci-fi movie, only this **** is REAL. Stoning 14 year old girls? excecuting teenage kids for eating a sandwich during some religious holiday? It's BARBARIC and it needs to be stopped, they're the disease, and we're the cure. These dipshits should have thought about that before they killed 3000 people on our own soil. That idiot binladen had them all convinced that we would roll over. Looks like he was pretty wrong about that, after 30 years of these islamic dickwads sticking their finger in our eye we are NOW in his backyard breaking his ****.

The US was born out of revolution, it was born out of throwing off the yokes of tyranny and fighting for our own destiny. Maybe in a few thousand years europe is just used to changing borders, and changing kings, and their naploleons and their hitlers, but we won't stand for that here. 200+ years ago farmers picked up weapons and along with a rag tag army, with some marching barefoot in the snow, fought to give birth to a nation, and we'll fight down to the last man to preserve it. The other alternative is to turn violent nations into peacefull nations so war becomes a thing of the past. THATS where we are today. Free the people, kill the dictators.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2004 2:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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pearl harbor

pearl harbour was a military base, it was a legitimate target. The bravery of japanese soldiers giving their lives literally for their country is 20 million times greater than an american pilot who dropped the worlds worst invention onto two cities which did not include military bases. Oh your real liberators... take your cowboy antics to your own oversized backyards - your not cleaning anything up in the world, your making it worse. Your big talk about kicking arab ass is sickening, believing that you are a warrior. You show absolutely no remorse for the hundreds of thousands of innocents murdered by americans needlesly. In the words of taira shigesuke you are "a peasant wearing the skin of a warrior". Your country has acted in an overkill manner too many times - look at the slaughter of vietnam. and for what? because they believed something you didnt.

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Face it, we could have owned the world a dozen times over, yet we always give the countries of the invaders back to them.


you could own nothing but your new world. your arrogance is almost as disgraceful as your lack of compassion. If america tried a conquest like approach they would fail within ten years. Americans have absolutely NO idea of how to treat an occupied nation. Look at iraq, the southern british controlled area remained stable because the british no what peacekeeping means. However the american controlled area is wracked with attacks because the american soldiers are trained to kill not to think. Your armies are bigger than most you have that, but the skill of your warriors is pitiful compared to the might of a well trained, proffesional army. the americans are new in the world and they do have much power but it is their ignorance of how to use this power which causes such instability in te world.

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Like it or not, when **** gets REAL serious people look to the US


only the desperate look to the extremes - if people looked to the americans in times of trouble then why is it that so many world powers condemn americas foreign policy?

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but europe better get with the program and realise that if it wasn't for us they would be goose stepping and speaking german...OR russian for that matter.


you helped win the war you did not win it outright - grow up.

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The birth place of civilization with such an amazing history is dying on the vine.


learn some respect boy, your sarcasm befitts the lack of history of your own.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2004 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

""Look at iraq, the southern british controlled area remained stable because the british no what peacekeeping means. However the american controlled area is wracked with attacks because the american soldiers are trained to kill not to think. ""

you know, I laugh every time I hear that one, because it's such bullshit. We give the british a cake walk of a place to patrol while the US takes the sunni triangle, the seat of the terrorist's power, saddam's old stronghold, and you wonder why there is no problems where the british are. It has nothing to do with how the british conduct themselves, and everything to do with WHO they are dealing with. Feel free to switch areas with us, we'll go play soccer with the locals while your guys get blown up. Don't think that they won't get targeted by the terrorists, that cute accent isn't going to help them. Our soldiers are trained to kill, thats what they do, to make the OTHER bastard die for his country.


""Oh your real liberators... take your cowboy antics to your own oversized backyards - your not cleaning anything up in the world, your making it worse. Your big talk about kicking arab ass is sickening, believing that you are a warrior. You show absolutely no remorse for the hundreds of thousands of innocents murdered by americans needlesly.""


Turn off the al jazeera, and take 2 steps back from the TV. The brainwashing is getting to your brain. It's only worse in the minds of anti war pussies who think liberation comes from mail order. liberating Nobody? I bet the afghans and good iraqi people would disagree with you.


100's of 1000's? Fucking prove it. I'm done with assholes who spew the bullshit that we're murdering civilians while at the same time there is an islamic army on the march killing, torturing, and beheading everything in their path. Don't give me this lame compassion argument either, saddam was filling mass graves like the people were nothing more than landfill, and that french POS leader shitrock was more worried about his business contracts to allow the iraqis to be free. I don't want to hear about europe's compassion. Their idiot leaders fabricated this whole anti america crap so they can win their elections, produce propaganda that would make the nazis proud, and fuel it with their bullshit claims that tons of civilians are dying. The funny part is the idiots who believe this stuff STILL won't adress the fact that iraq is FREE and saddam would STILL be there to murder his people while the douchbags in europe got rich from the oil for food program.

And we're supposed to be the bad guys? You stand in the way of freedom for the people of iraq because it's more fun to hate america, it's more fun to hate bush than to stop women from being executed in soccer stadiums in afghanistan. It's more fun to believe the bullshit from europe's corrupt socialists than to see the pictures of the iraqi kids hamming it up and smiling for the cameras. Its more fun to be an elitist blowhard than it is to see the first free elections in afghanistan in 5000 years.

Remorse? What the hell would half the braindead in europe know about remorse? You see pictures of ALL these relatives crying and picking through remains in mass graves looking for their family, we see videos of the executions done by saddam, the 5000 kurds who were murdered by chemical weapons. Need I go on? At what point do you step in and stop the madness, when the UN says so? When the millionth victim is put in the ground? When? Do you be europe of the 30's and allow a madman to get powerfull enough to use the planet as a graveyard while some idiot runs around saying "peace in our time"?

Don't lecture me about compassion or remorse. From your corner of the world it's fashionable to be everything except vigilant, and it's fashionable to doom whole populations to tyrannical rule just for the fun to be anti american. I'll take the 50 million freed (and YES they are free) over any lame excuse to do nothing. My conscience is clear.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2004 6:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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100's of 1000's? ------- prove it.


you proved it yourself when you told eveyone with pride that you roasted 200,000 people at hiroshima let alone nagasaki. I was refering to japan not iraq.

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you know, I laugh every time I hear that one, because it's such bullshit. We give the british a cake walk of a place to patrol while the US takes the sunni triangle, the seat of the terrorist's power, saddam's old stronghold, and you wonder why there is no problems where the british are. It has nothing to do with how the british conduct themselves, and everything to do with WHO they are dealing with.


if the british were as moronic as the americans in dealing with peacekeeping, terrorists are free to MOVE around the country to deal with the south. Had the british been given control of the north of iraq it would be the south that was the HOTSPOT of terror.

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It's only worse in the minds of anti war ------- who think liberation comes from mail order.


look at my signature you fool, i am not anti war! i am for the good conduct of war and a minimalization of collateral damage. Liberation comes at a cost we all know this - you dont have to act all high and mighty merely because you own more COWARDLY nukes than everybody else.

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100's of 1000's? ------- prove it. I'm done with assholes who spew the bullshit that we're murdering civilians while at the same time there is an islamic army on the march killing, torturing, and beheading everything in their path. Don't give me this lame compassion argument either, saddam was filling mass graves like the people were nothing more than landfill, and that french POS leader shitrock was more worried about his business contracts to allow the iraqis to be free. I don't want to hear about europe's compassion. Their idiot leaders fabricated this whole anti america crap so they can win their elections, produce propaganda that would make the nazis proud, and fuel it with their bullshit claims that tons of civilians are dying. The funny part is the idiots who believe this stuff STILL won't adress the fact that iraq is FREE and saddam would STILL be there to murder his people while the douchbags in europe got rich from the oil for food program.


im not disagreeing with the war in iraq, i am disagreeing with your lack of remorse for the innocents in hiroshima, nagasaki, vietnam, grenada or indonesia. your lack of compassion is what alienates you from real countries.

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Our soldiers are trained to kill, thats what they do, to make the OTHER bastard die for his country.


and thats your attitude of the peasant again. Soldiers are not meant to be murderers.

"For a warrior whose duty it is to defend the innocent from brigands, it will not do to act like a brigand yourself" - Yamamoto tsunetomo"

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the first free elections in afghanistan in 5000 years.


Afghanistan didnt exist 5000 years ago you idiot.

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Remorse? What the hell would half the braindead in europe know about remorse? You see pictures of ALL these relatives crying and picking through remains in mass graves looking for their family, we see videos of the executions done by saddam, the 5000 kurds who were murdered by chemical weapons. Need I go on? At what point do you step in and stop the madness, when the UN says so? When the millionth victim is put in the ground? When? Do you be europe of the 30's and allow a madman to get powerfull enough to use the planet as a graveyard while some idiot runs around saying "peace in our time"?


the english aren't european, and we answered the call to end sadam so take your anti europe rants somewhere else because weve been having those same rants for a thousand years.

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Don't lecture me about compassion or remorse


Why not? you need it boy. When you wake up and see that war is not all about utterly destroying every memory of your adversary, then you will see what i mean. [/quote]
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 3:03 pm    Post subject: Bravo reza! I agree with you Reply with quote

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100's of 1000's? ------- prove it.


you proved it yourself when you told eveyone with pride that you roasted 200,000 people at hiroshima let alone nagasaki. I was refering to japan not iraq.

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you know, I laugh every time I hear that one, because it's such bullshit. We give the british a cake walk of a place to patrol while the US takes the sunni triangle, the seat of the terrorist's power, saddam's old stronghold, and you wonder why there is no problems where the british are. It has nothing to do with how the british conduct themselves, and everything to do with WHO they are dealing with.


if the british were as moronic as the americans in dealing with peacekeeping, terrorists are free to MOVE around the country to deal with the south. Had the british been given control of the north of iraq it would be the south that was the HOTSPOT of terror.

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It's only worse in the minds of anti war ------- who think liberation comes from mail order.


look at my signature you fool, i am not anti war! i am for the good conduct of war and a minimalization of collateral damage. Liberation comes at a cost we all know this - you dont have to act all high and mighty merely because you own more COWARDLY nukes than everybody else.

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100's of 1000's? ------- prove it. I'm done with assholes who spew the bullshit that we're murdering civilians while at the same time there is an islamic army on the march killing, torturing, and beheading everything in their path. Don't give me this lame compassion argument either, saddam was filling mass graves like the people were nothing more than landfill, and that french POS leader shitrock was more worried about his business contracts to allow the iraqis to be free. I don't want to hear about europe's compassion. Their idiot leaders fabricated this whole anti america crap so they can win their elections, produce propaganda that would make the nazis proud, and fuel it with their bullshit claims that tons of civilians are dying. The funny part is the idiots who believe this stuff STILL won't adress the fact that iraq is FREE and saddam would STILL be there to murder his people while the douchbags in europe got rich from the oil for food program.


im not disagreeing with the war in iraq, i am disagreeing with your lack of remorse for the innocents in hiroshima, nagasaki, vietnam, grenada or indonesia. your lack of compassion is what alienates you from real countries.

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Our soldiers are trained to kill, thats what they do, to make the OTHER bastard die for his country.


and thats your attitude of the peasant again. Soldiers are not meant to be murderers.

"For a warrior whose duty it is to defend the innocent from brigands, it will not do to act like a brigand yourself" - Yamamoto tsunetomo"

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the first free elections in afghanistan in 5000 years.


Afghanistan didnt exist 5000 years ago you idiot.

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Remorse? What the hell would half the braindead in europe know about remorse? You see pictures of ALL these relatives crying and picking through remains in mass graves looking for their family, we see videos of the executions done by saddam, the 5000 kurds who were murdered by chemical weapons. Need I go on? At what point do you step in and stop the madness, when the UN says so? When the millionth victim is put in the ground? When? Do you be europe of the 30's and allow a madman to get powerfull enough to use the planet as a graveyard while some idiot runs around saying "peace in our time"?


the english aren't european, and we answered the call to end sadam so take your anti europe rants somewhere else because weve been having those same rants for a thousand years.

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Don't lecture me about compassion or remorse


Why not? you need it boy. When you wake up and see that war is not all about utterly destroying every memory of your adversary, then you will see what i mean.
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Bravo reza!! Wink Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 4:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

why thankyou mary Cool
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 2:52 pm    Post subject: recent french protests Reply with quote

check this out:
http://edition.cnn.com/2005/TRAVEL/03/10/france.strike.ap/index.html

(for those who still think french people don't protest)
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