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Parvaneh



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 1:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What about SOMALIA ?!!


stefania wrote:
Mary C,

what about the Ivory Coast ?

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I was in Vietnam a couple of years ago, and still Americans are hated


Yes, because they have abandoned them in the hands of the Communists.

Thanks to Mr. Kerry Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 1:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mary_c wrote:
Listen, I’m not here to defend nor offence any nation. I was just explaining that French people indeed demonstrate.
However, it’s sad that Americans don’t want to recognize the fact that they ARE undeniably much more hated around the world, even if French people did “worst” things.



Absolutly Americans are hated throughout the world ! Even in US, on 9/11 the country was divided between christians-jews on one side and muslims who agreed with the attacks in Washington (representing USA), but not the twin towers (representing the world).

They woke up one day, THAT Day and were astonished to see how much they were hated ! This proves that the US gvt has ALWAYS lied to their people and how much they are disconected from the rest of the world ! Laughing [/list]
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 1:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just wonder on which planet you're living, because your message below is just full of NONSENS ! Laughing Laughing Laughing


You need to TRAVEL throughout EUROPE, MIDDLE and NEAR EAST, ASIA and you will see how much Americans are ADORED ! Laughing

NO ! Iranians don't hate France, because nearly all the former gvt flew to NICE (French Riviera) at the beginning of the revolution....

You have only cited IVORY COAST : but if France withdraws its army overthere, there will be a serious danger of a civil war ! Just like in SOMALIA : the US went overthere and left the country in its sh.... ! There's no gvt ... NOTHING but a civil war that doesn't finish !


stefania wrote:
They're hated by the Dictators and the Europeans

Not so by the oppressed peoples.

I may make a long list of them, but it will take hours.

Sadly for you and your govt, the Iranians hate France.

And they have all the right to do so.

Now answer my question : WHY DID YOU MASSACRE INNOCENT CIVILIANS IN IVORY COAST ?

DO THEY LOVE YOU ?

IT SEEMS NO .

THEY SHOUTED ANTI-FRANCE SLOGANS AND PRO-US ONES.

THEY HAVE COMPARED CHIRAC TO BIN LADEN.

AND I THINK THAT CHIRAC AND BIN LADEN ARE VERY SIMILAR
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 1:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

""They woke up one day, THAT Day and were astonished to see how much they were hated ! This proves that the US gvt has ALWAYS lied to their people and how much they are disconected from the rest of the world ! ""



In your frigging dreams froggy. It shows how much the world don't have a god damn clue about americans. Do you really think that 60 million voted for bush because we couldn't see through any "supposed" lies? 60 million voted for bush as a REWARD for having the balls to go into the middle east and give it a well deserved american boot in it's ass. For 30 years we watched airplanes get blown out of the sky, people get shot up in airports, diplomats killed, embassies blown up, cruise ships taken hostage, etc etc, because some mental defect's GOD told them do it. After 9-11 the gloves came OFF. Binladen didn't expect that "paper tiger" to have DEADLY TEETH.

Look at pearl harbor. The japs pulled a sneak attack, and we rewarded them by going on a pacific island hopping ass kicking campaign, chased them back to their mainland, and them for the crown jewel we roasted 200,000 of them in their own backyard. Hitting the WTC gave us our excuse.



You freaks don't get it. Bush used the WMD argument to scare the 40% ass sucking socialists in our country to get on board with the liberation of iraq, because those selfish bastards don't care WHO lives in slavery. Maybe it's not well known, but the LEFT in this country were the hold outs in giving the black population their freedom. It was the southern leftists that didn't want them in the white schools. True to their history they would let the people of iran, iraq, afghanistan live in bondage. the fact is that bush had to FOOL them into getting on board. The 60 million that voted for bush did so because we LIKED...no, LOVED the fact that he gave the world, france, AND germany the finger.

Thats the problem with some of the worlds morons. They see the 60 million as being dupped by bush, but the REAL fact is we REWARDED him for having a set of balls the french can only dream about. BTW, those 60 million don't give a flying F*ck what the world thinks about us. Put that in your book.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 1:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My word ! but I cannot believe what I'm reading ! Shocked Laughing Laughing

This "love affair' has been created by JIMMY CARTER - a former AMERICAN PRESIDENT and it still lastes since 26 years ! The dammages are lasting 26 long years ! NOTHING has been done and it's not the FRENCH gvt by itself who can support for such a longtime these mollahs !

Are you AWARE Idea that the french gvt protested energetically, vigorously against the war in Irak in front of the UNITED NATIONS and the AMERICANS and BRITISH still went ahead with this UNLLEGAL war Question Question Exclamation The american and british armies are occupy Irak without the support of the UN and now they pay for it, especaily the AMERICANS, with their "democratic" foreign policy !

They have done such a mess in the world that they will be hated for decades !!!

Iranians protest against the french policy towards Iran, but you don't speak, read french so just keep quiet instead of saying nonsenses ! I can provide you the links with the demonstrations and also official letters being sent to the french gvt !


stefania wrote:
If you are against your govt's policies, go prove it.

How? By protesting your govt's SUPPORT AND LOVE AFFAIR WITH THE MULLAHS.

A LOVE AFFAIR THAT LASTS SINCE MORE 25 YEARS

YOU MIGHT ASK YOUR GOVT TO STOP SUPPORTING THE MULLAHS AND JOIN THE US IN SUPPORTING THE IRANIAN PEOPLE.

YOU ALSO MAY APOLOGIZE TO THE IRANIAN PEOPLE FOR BRINGING KHOMEINI TO IRAN FROM HIS EXILE IN FRANCE .

YOU MIGHT SAY THAT YOU ARE ASHAMED OF ALL THAT.

ONCE, A FRIEND FROM IRAN SAID TO ME THAT "FRANCE AND OTHER EUROPEAN COUNTRIES ARE EVEN WORSE THAN AL QAEDA "

WITH THAT I MEAN THE GOVTS THERE, NOT THE FRENCH PEOPLE OF COURSE.

BUT AS LONG AS THE FRENCH KEEP PROTESTING THE US ' POLICIES INSTEAD OF THEIR GOVT'S ONES , THEY ARE ACCOMPLICE OF THEIR GOVT'S CRIMES.

WANNA SHOW THAT YOU THINK DIFFERENTLY THAN YOUR GOVT?

GO OUT AND PROTEST YOUR GOVT'S SUPPORT FOR MULLAHS' REPRESSION IN IRAN.

DON'T TELL ME THAT "IT DOESN'T SUPPORT THE REPRESSION IN IRAN ".

IT DOES, CAUSE IT'S GOING TO BED WITH THE MULLAHS SINCE YEARS.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 1:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, just reality man ! Laughing

If Bush has been relected, it was thanks for his moral values (against abortion, and homosexuality) that I appreciate, and thanks to the jews.... and also IRANIANS to whom he promised a changement in Iran. Well, I hope he will keep his promise without bombs all over Iran like in Serbia, Irak and Afghanistan !!!

You said : "BTW, those 60 million don't give a flying F*ck what the world thinks about us. " That's why you had the 9/11 and all these attacks against Americans in the Middle and Near East !


Berserker wrote:

In your frigging dreams froggy. It shows how much the world don't have a god damn clue about americans. Do you really think that 60 million voted for bush because we couldn't see through any "supposed" lies? 60 million voted for bush as a REWARD for having the balls to go into the middle east and give it a well deserved american boot in it's ass. For 30 years we watched airplanes get blown out of the sky, people get shot up in airports, diplomats killed, embassies blown up etc etc.

You freaks don't get it. Bush used the WMD argument to scare the 40% ass sucking socialists in our country to get on board with the liberation of iraq, because those selfish bastards don't care WHO lives in slavery. Maybe it's not well known, but the LEFT in this country were the hold outs in giving the black population their freedom. It was the southern leftists that didn't want them in the white schools. True to their history they would let the people of iran, iraq, afghanistan live in bondage. the fact is that bush had to FOOL them into getting on board. The 60 million that voted for bush did so because we LIKED...no, LOVED the fact that he gave the world, france, AND germany the finger.

Thats the problem with some of the worlds morons. they see the 60 million as being dupped by bush, but the REAL fact is we REWARDED him for having a set of balls the french can only dream about. BTW, those 60 million don't give a flying F*ck what the world thinks about us. Put that in your book.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 1:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We had these attacks against us for 30 years LONG before bush, and they grew bigger and bigger untill finally we had a president who had the balls for some PAYBACK.

Jews? what the hell do the Jews have anything to do with it? Let me give you a hint, most people in the US don't give a rat's ass about the jews, and 80% of them STILL voted for Kerry. Thats another myth, the average american don't even think about the jews anymore than we think about mormons, mennonites, protestants, greek orthodox etc etc. It's just another religion as far as we're concerned. You know what we want? A jewish state, and a palestinian state, both living in freedom and both at peace, no more, no less. The average american doesn't favor one more than the other.

The gay/abortion thing is another myth. We have a problem with certain judges legislating from the bench making gay marrage legal, and it';s NOT their job to make laws, and the anti gay thing was not against gays as much as it was against those judges. the more I read the more I start to see that the world has NO clue about what goes on in America.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 1:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This attack you're talking about was during a war, so it was completly different !

The 9/11 was against US, in US without any war ...

The jews : you said Americans voted for Bush and I said it was thanks to them too because of his pro-israeli policy !

Well, if I say that people living in US have NO idea about the harm their gvt is doing in the rest of the world ? ...

Berserker wrote:
We had these attacks against us for 30 years LONG before bush, and they grew bigger and bigger untill finally we had a president who had the balls for some PAYBACK.

Jews? what the hell do the Jews have anything to do with it? Let me give you a hint, most people in the US don't give a rat's ass about the jews, and 80% of them STILL voted for Kerry. Thats another myth, the average american don't even think about the jews anymore than we think about mormons, mennonites, protestants, greek orthodox etc etc. It's just another religion as far as we're concerned. The gay/abortion thing is another myth. We have a problem with certain judges legislating from the bench, and the anti gay thing was not against gays as much as it was against those judges. the more I read the more I start to see that the world has NO clue about what goes on in America.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 2:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

""This attack you're talking about was during a war, so it was completly different""


WAR? I'm talking about the last 30 years of dealing with these god damn islamo fascists blowing up **** all over the planet. We watched, and watched, and watched, and after 9-11 we said ENOUGH. It all goes back to radical islam, it was behind ALL of it, so thats where we stuck the dagger, and it was about frigging time.


""The jews : you said Americans voted for Bush and I said it was thanks to them too because of his pro-israeli policy !""

The jews here typically vote democrat, Bush didn't get that many of their votes. Let me give you another clue, isreal is a DEMOCRACY, thats why we support them. If the role was reversed and palestine was a democracy and it was the jews who were strapping on bombs, then we would have a pro palestine attitude. We support DEMOCRACIES, we don't care who lives under them.


""Well, if I say that people living in US have NO idea about the harm their gvt is doing in the rest of the world ? ... ""



If liberating people from oppressive governments is doing harm to the world, then the world needs an enema, and maybe we shouldn't stop at the ME. If the world is in such a hissy because of the spreading of freedom and the elimination of brutal dictators, then maybe the world needs to have it's ass kicked, because it's too sick to survive. The US WILL NOT go down in history as the only super power who turned it's back on enslaved people when it has the power to free them. No way, that is NOT the american way. The superpower that could of and didn't? We're not going to accept that. We didn't accept in in WW1, WW2 and the rest of the 20th century. We went to Kosovo and bombed white christians who were former allies of ours in WW2 to help the muslims. We're an equall opportunity liberator. We're not going to roll over now and ignore the crys of anguish coming out of the darker places of the planet. It's what we do. SOMEBODY has to look out for mankind, and if we have to liberate the good people of the world from the evil bastards that enslave and murder them, then we'll do it. If that pisses off the world then tough ****.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 2:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Parvaneh wrote:
What about SOMALIA ?!!


stefania wrote:
Mary C,

what about the Ivory Coast ?

Quote:
I was in Vietnam a couple of years ago, and still Americans are hated


Yes, because they have abandoned them in the hands of the Communists.

Thanks to Mr. Kerry Evil or Very Mad


I am not a fan of Mussolini.

My grandfather was one of the victims of Mussolini.

So have respects
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well Berserker, I would say that the world kept on watching and suffering of US foreign policy and the sad result was 9/11 ... + more hatred against them

Bush has the votes of jews thanks to his policy and Wolfowitz behind him whispering him what to say and do Laughing

Israel a democray ?? Shocked Well well well ! Laughing tell me if democray accepts the right to torture, to colonize territories which don't belong to them, to cut water, work from the poor palestinian people, etc ..... Question And this shameful wall to "protect" them from terrorism ??? which has been condamned by the international court ! BTW, attacks still continue, no ??

US liberating CERTAIN countries from dictators ??? just for their own sake my dear !

What about Iran, Saudia Arabia, Syria, even the Emirates with their discrimation against women !!! North Korea, CUBA ! Lybia, a few countries in Africa and South America !!! What about Tchechenia, etc .. The list is not finished ... Confused


Berserker wrote:
""This attack you're talking about was during a war, so it was completly different""


WAR? I'm talking about the last 30 years of dealing with these god damn islamo fascists blowing up **** all over the planet. We watched, and watched, and watched, and after 9-11 we said ENOUGH. It all goes back to radical islam, it was behind ALL of it, so thats where we stuck the dagger, and it was about frigging time.


""The jews : you said Americans voted for Bush and I said it was thanks to them too because of his pro-israeli policy !""

The jews here typically vote democrat, Bush didn't get that many of their votes. Let me give you another clue, isreal is a DEMOCRACY, thats why we support them. If the role was reversed and palestine was a democracy and it was the jews who were strapping on bombs, then we would have a pro palestine attitude. We support DEMOCRACIES, we don't care who lives under them.


""Well, if I say that people living in US have NO idea about the harm their gvt is doing in the rest of the world ? ... ""



If liberating people from oppressive governments is doing harm to the world, then the world needs an enema, and maybe we shouldn't stop at the ME. If the world is in such a hissy because of the spreading of freedom and the elimination of brutal dictators, then maybe the world needs to have it's ass kicked, because it's too sick to survive. The US WILL NOT go down in history as the only super power who turned it's back on enslaved people when it has the power to free them. No way, that is NOT the american way. The superpower that could of and didn't? We're not going to accept that.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry for your grandfather, but accuse USA for their ugly, discusting policy towards this poor country ! Confused

stefania wrote:
Parvaneh wrote:
What about SOMALIA ?!!


stefania wrote:
Mary C,

what about the Ivory Coast ?

Quote:
I was in Vietnam a couple of years ago, and still Americans are hated


Yes, because they have abandoned them in the hands of the Communists.

Thanks to Mr. Kerry Evil or Very Mad


I am not a fan of Mussolini.

My grandfather was one of the victims of Mussolini.

So have respects
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stefania, my dear goomba. My grandmother's sister was tatooed like the jews were thanks to Mussolini. They were in a concentration camp during WW2 and escaped by hiding in a truckload of dead bodies. My grandmother came to the US in '38, but her sister stayed behind and got screwed. I'm an Italian American, and MY ancestors that managed to make it here returned to Italy in US army uniforms to liberate their former homeland. yeah, I have this thing against dictators.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 2:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

""What about Iran, Saudia Arabia, Syria, even the Emirates with their discrimation against women !!! North Korea, CUBA ! Lybia, a few countries in Africa and South America !!! What about Tchechenia, etc .. The list is not finished ... ""


Some can work through diplomacy, and some need a boot in their ass. Everybody calls for us to hit saudi arabia, but they don't think about the world economy. SA is in a carefull balancing act between pro and anti west factions. MAYBE...just MAYBE when a free iraq can get it's oil production up and running and out on the world market it would be different, but if SA falls right now the world will go into a massive depression because gas would be $20 a gallon. Nobody thinks of that. Liberating is one thing, but plunging the planet into darkness is another. The only damage the US is doing now is in people's minds. If it wasn't for the anti US press the world wouldn't even know we were in Iraq. Don't think we don't think about cuba and the rest, it's just everything has a certain order, and each case needs a different action. Don't think the saudis are going to skate, they'll have to answer for stuff eventually.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 3:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Parvaneh wrote:
Sorry for your grandfather, but accuse USA for their ugly, discusting policy towards this poor country ! Confused

stefania wrote:
Parvaneh wrote:
What about SOMALIA ?!!


stefania wrote:
Mary C,

what about the Ivory Coast ?

Quote:
I was in Vietnam a couple of years ago, and still Americans are hated


Yes, because they have abandoned them in the hands of the Communists.

Thanks to Mr. Kerry Evil or Very Mad


I am not a fan of Mussolini.

My grandfather was one of the victims of Mussolini.

So have respects


Yes, the US should have left Somalia to the Terrorists.
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