[FREE IRAN Project] In The Spirit Of Cyrus The Great

[Spenta]

There was a debate about Frouhar and Hoveyda (Apples and Oranges) recently that brought out many disagreements. This is a subject matter that I would like to better address here.

The Cult of Frouhar is very dangerous, Iran has had too many of these cults of the martyrs, and attempts at covering up Frouhar's many contributions to the tragedy of Iran in the last 25 years are even more dangerous.


Some background info On Daryoush Frouhar

Daryoush Forouhar: Famous Iranian Political dissident. Opposed the Shah and went to jail under the Shah briefly, but also managed to head a large business once released from prison (many dissidents under the Shah lived quite prosperously and had successful businesses). He was a devoutly religious muslim who never missed a prayer, supported Khomeini as his leader, and saw him as a saint. During the revolution he betrayed Bakhtiar and his transitional government which was charged with holding democratic elections in support of Khomeini.

According to those who served under the Bakhtiar govt. such as Amuzegar, Frouhar did everything in his power to sabotage Bakhtiar and his government. Alongside Sanjabi and Sahabi of Jebhe Melli, finally they publicly sided with Khomeini against Bakhtiar and his government causing its collapse and Khomeini's subsequent takoever. Many analysts have argued that Frouhar et. al did this, because they were greedy for power and thought that they could takeover Iran with Khomeini, whereas with Bakhtiar they would have to get elected and share power with others. Rather than opting for a democratic process, they opted for a forceful takoever with Khomeini and his militia!

After Khomeini's takeover was complete, Frouhar was rewarded with a cabinet post in Khomeini's appointed govt. He served in this govt. for a year. While minister, the govt. he served in killed more in its first 3 months than the Shah had in his entire reign. This is a govt. that in addition to genocide committed other horrors like attacking thousands of women demonstrators brutally in March of '79 and then stripping them of their rights, massacring entire Kurdish villages in April of '79, lining up Bahais and Jews to kill them because of their religion, and the list goes on.

By the end of the year, the Mullah$ decided to completely takoever the govt., killing off anyone serving in the govt. that was not wearing a turban. Frouhar, seeing what direction the wind was blowing, quickly resigned from the govt. Others like Ghotbzadeh were killed and Bani Sadr was forced to flee.

After leaving govt. Frouhar never publicly criticised Khomeini. Others like Ghotbzadeh (close friend of Khomeini's during the revolution) did and was killed, and Bani Sadr criticised Khomeini and was forced to flee prior to getting killed. Thousands of Mojaheds, Toudeh, Chereekan etc. who criticised Khomeini were killed. Based on Amnesty International's estimates 25,000 political prisoners were killed in the first 3 years after the revolution. Thousands of teachers, professors, scholars, scientiests who criticised Khomeini were purged and forced out of their jobs. Thousands were forced to flee Iran. Frouhar, continued to never criticise Khomeini, as many of his colleagues who were killed or forced to flee, did.

Throughout the 1980's thousands more were killed, assassinated in the west, imprisoned and tortured, and fired from their jobs for criticising Khomeini! But Frouhar continued to remain silent and managed to live a comfortable life running a 'tolerated' political party under the direct protection and patronage of Khomeini. While 15 year old girls caught with a political pamphlet were jailed, raped tortured and executed in the thousands, Frouhar raised a family comfortably and prosperously under the direct protection and patronage of Khomeini!

In the 1990s, with Khomeini gone, Frouhar had lost many of his previous privaleges, and did not benefit from any favors from Rafsanjani and Khamenei the way he had from Khomeini. Alienated and blocked out of access to privalege of a kind he had enjoyed under Khomeini from the new leadership, Frouhar became more of an outspoken critic of the Islamic Republic. In '96 as part of the chain murders, him and his wife were brutally murdered by assassins dispatched by Rafsanjani/Khamenei. Since then he has been enshrined as a hero, by the Cult of Frouhar. He is called as a Nazi Collaborator by many others, including me, who choose to not forget the past, especially when this past involved the genocide of so many and the destruction of a nation!

How should Frouhar be remembered today?

A few years ago, I really didn't know a whole lot about Frouhar. I only knew that he was assissinated by the IRI, so I automatically assumed he was a great hero. Until one day, someone brought Frouhar's entire history to my attention, and then I realised, how mistaken I had been. I then continued to research him, and was even further shocked to find out how much he was involved with Khomeini (even the New York Times mentioned that he was part of the regime, a favorite of Khomeini's who had fallen out of favor after the passing of Khomeini), how he sabotaged Bakhtiar, and how he refused to criticise Khomeini as all his colleagues died for doing so while Khomeini committed the greatest genocides of modern Iran! I was horrified, and then I became angry that like so many others, I had been misled into believing that Frouahr was a hero, when he was just a Nazi Collborator who helped bring Khomeini and the IRI into power, and then refused to criticise Khomeini, because of his patronage while thousands of his colleagues died for criticising Khomeini!

While Frouhar's murder was horrifyingly brutal and totally wrong, his support of Khomeini and his refusal to criticise Khomeini publicly was equally wrong!

Frouhar's support for Khomeini and his refusal to publicly criticise Khomeini as all his colleagues died for doing so, and as Khomeini committed the greatest genocides of modern Iran, renders him as a Nazi Collaborator, especially since many of these genocdies were based on religion, ethnicity, and gender.

Why Frouhar is called a Nazi Collaborator

Because:

1. Frouhar supported Khomeini, who believed in mass genocide based on religion, ethnicity, gender, and political belief. Nazis believed in racial superiority and the elimination of those who were not of them as well. Therefore Frouhar supported, helped to put into power, and served in a govt. that effectively imposed a racial, gender, religious, and ethnic form of apartheid similar to the Nazis.

2. Frouhar sabotaged Bakhtiar's transitional govt. that was charged with holding democratic elections, thus destorying Iran's chances of having a secular democracy. As the coup de grace, he publicly opposed Bakhtiar in favor of Khomeini. He betrayed Bakhtiar, in order to gain power in a Khomeini led govt.

3. He served as a cabinet member in a govt. that killed more in its first 3 months, than the Shah had in his entire reign.

4. He served as a cabinet member in a govt. that killed without trial or right to representation.

5. He served as a cabinet member in a govt. that lined up Bahai men, women and children against the wall and machine gunned them to death for being Bahais.

6. He served as a cabinet member in a govt. that brutally attacked thousands of women demonstrators demanding their rights in March of '79.

7. He served as a cabinet member in a govt. that stripped women and children of many of their rights.

8. He served as a cabinet member in a govt. that stripped religious minorities of many of their rights.

9. He served as a cabinet member in a govt. that sent helicopter gunships and Palestinian mercenaries to massacre krudish villagers in April of 1979.

10. He served as a cabinet member in a govt. that killed Jewish business men in Tehran, for being Jewish!

11. After leaving the government, he refused to publicly criticise Khomeini, as many of his brave colleagues who did so were killed, forced to flee and executed. While Khomeini embarked on the biggest massacres in modern Iran killing anyone criticising him, Frouhar remained silent even as friends were dragged away in the middle of the night to be shot!

12. He ran a political party, that was officially 'tolerated', under the direct patronage and protection of Khomeini for many years, as thousands of dissidents and brave Iranians were either killed or forced to flee. His party engaged in occassional mild and inconsequential criticisms of the govt., that never really challenged the genocides as he continued to enjoy privaleges from Khomeini. Many others stood up and spoke up on principal, only to lose everything, get tortured and killed as Frouhar refused to criticise Khomeini, and continued to live comfortably and prosperously in Iran!

13. After Komeini's death, he fell out of favor, and did not enjoy the same protection, patronage and privaleges he had enjoyed under Khomeini. In the 1990's he stepped up his criticisms of the IRI, since he could not receive the same privaleges from Rafsanjani and Khameini that he had enjoyed under Khomeini. He ran afoul of the mafia, and was brutally murdered alongside his wife by Rafsanjani's assassins.

Are Frouhar and Hoveyda the same?

Are Apples and Oranges the same?

Lately, some people claim that we shouldn't call Frouhar a Nazi Collaborator because he was brutally killed by the IRI. That calling Frouhar a Nazi Collaborator is like calling Hoveyda a Nazi Collaborator. First of all Hoveyda never supported or helped put into power a leader and a government that comitted mass genocide of the kind that Khomeini did on the basis of religion, ethnicity, gender and belief the way Frouhar did.

Hoveyda did not sabotage a government charged with holding democratic elections, in order to promote his own candidate, thus bringing about the worst regime of Iran's history since the Mongol invasion. Hoveyda did not serve in a government that killed thousands and thousands without any trials longer than 30 seconds, or any representation. Hoveyda did not serve in a govt that stripped women, religious and ethnic minorities of their rights thus effectively imposing a racial, gender, religious, ethnic apartheid similar to the Nazis. Hoveyda did not serve in a govt. that massacred Kurdish women and children and lined up Bahai families against the wall to machine gun them to death for being Bahai. Hoveyda did not serve in a govt. that killed Jews for being Jews! And the list, quite substantially long here, goes on for some time!

Frouhar's brutal murder was wrong, but so was his support of Khomeini, sabotge of Bakhtiar's govt., and his silence and refusal to criticise Khomeini as thousands perished in the most brutal genocides of modern Iran. And Hoveyda was not by any stretch of the imagination the same as Frouhar, for all the obvious reasons cited above.

Why is it important to state that Frouhar was a Nazi Collaborator?

Being a victim does not absolve anyone of their responsibility. Frouhar's murder was truly brutal and wrong, however this tragedy does not excuse his support of Khomeini, his serving in Khomeini's govt. which commited genocide and apartheid based on religion, ethnicity, and gender, in addition to his refusal to criticise Khomeini even as all of his colleagues who did so were brutally killed for many years!

Let me recount a story about how this cult of martyrdom in Iran can sometimes beget such disastrous results.

Khosrow Golesorkhi was turned into a martyr whose symbol was used throughout the revolution. He had been arrested, tried and executed for treason and terrorism under the Shah. Golesorkhi's trial was broadcast on TV. He was charged with conspiracy to commit terrorist acts, to kidnap members of the royal family and to kill them, and to assassinate people. He never denied any of these charges, or that he believed in violent revolution, and the killing and assassination of people, including the Shah's young children. The Shah even offered to grant him a pardon if he was willing to renounce his violent ways, or his support for violence and terrorism, but he refused to, so the trial found him guilty and he was executed. (Note: there were many terrorist attacks, kidnappings, bombings, and assissinations of Iranians and foreigners in Iran thoughout the 1970s, and there was an effort to put a stop to these campaigns of terrorism).

During the revolution Golesorkhi was turned into a great martyr. It was like the cult of Golesorkhi. Posters of him, and poems by him appeared everyhwere. Young people everywhere idolised him, and cried recounting his execution. He was turned into a saint, his pictures were carried in demonstrations against the Shah, and his martyrdom was used to bring about the revolution and put Khomeini into power.

So what is the lesson here? The lesson is, here was a man who believed in violence, terrorism, killing and genocide whose execution by the regime turned him into a matyr that many idolised. As a result of idolising people like Golesorkhi and never questioning his violent beliefs and terrorist acts, the nation ended up with a violent revolution, and a government that practices nothing but violence, genocide and terrorism against its own people, namely IRI. On some levels, it should come as no surprise that worshipping and idolising a violent terrorist would lead to such a regime!

Lessons are repeated, until they are learned. The lesson here is that ultimately nobody is above or beyond questioning, and the faults, mistakes and wrongdoing of no one can be absolved based on their 'martyrdom'! Cults of martyrdom have cost Iran plenty, and its time to learn the lessons. Frouhar's brutal murder was and is a tragedy, however this tragedy does not absolve him of any responsibility he bears for his choices and actions throughout his life. Nor does this martyrdom prevent anyone from bringing up the facts and additionally the many negative aspects of his life and contributions to the greater tragedy of Iran in the last 25 years.

So today, there is an attempt to do the same with the cult of Frouhar. Well, be forewarned that the cult of Frouhar also has consequences. Here is a man who betrayed his own colleague Bakhtiar in a greedy power grab with Khomeini and sabotaged Bakhtiar's transitional govt. which was charged with holding democratic elections and was Iran's best chance of having a secular democracy. When given a choice between democracy and his own desire for power, he chose his own desire for power. A man who supported Khomeini and served in his govt. which practiced genocide and apartheid based on religion, ethnicity, and gender. A man who lived comfortably and propserously under the direct protection and patronage of Khomeini for many years as thousands were sent to the gallows in the biggest genocides of modern Iran. A man who remained silent and refused to criticise his diabolical and genocidal patron Khomeini as all of his brave colleagues were killed, tortured and forced to flee the country leaving behind everything, for courageously criticising Khomeini!

The Cult of Frouhar, which attempts to enshrine Frouhar, turn him into an angel and 'martyr', deny and coverup his support and participation in the creation of IRI, his sabotage of Bakhtiar's govt. and Iran's best chance of democracy, and his silence in the face of Khomeini's genocides (his Nazi Collaborator activites) while all his colleagues who bravely stood up were killed are dangerous. Attempts at silencing the facts by the Cult of Frouhar are dangerous and will not bear any positive results, just as the cult of Golesorkhi 25 years ago did not.

I think of all those thousands of brave Iranian men and women, who unlike Frouhar stood up on principal and fearlessly criticised Khomeini's horrors only to be brutally killed and tortured, to lose everything, to escape out of the country for their lives, throughout Frouhar's shameful silence and refusal to directly criticise Khomeini ... and all I can do is to stand on principal today, in honor of their memory and speak up. So please, allow me to honor their memories by speaking up:
Frouhar was a Nazi Collaborator!

[9karevatan]

I DONT UNDERSTAND WHAT YOUR PROBLEM IS WITH FIGHTING THE REGIME IN IRAN ONLY AND ALONE....U MENTION SOMEONE WHO HAS DIED SEVERAL YEARS AGO WHICH EFFECTS NOTHING.....I CANT BELIEVE U HONESTLY U DONT SEEM TO REALIZE THAT THERES A MONTH LEFT TO 18 TIR!!!!!


SHAME ON U AND PEOPLE LIKE YOU!!!!!!!!

im very disappointed
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[Spenta]

How does this mean that I'm fighting the regime in Iran alone?!

If what I mention effects nothing, then what is your problem?! And why do you have to launch such an attack? (Not to mention fly off the handle as you have!)

And how does this threaten 18 Tir?

I guess starting a topic on the mathematical miracles of the Quron as you do is a better way of preparing for 18 Tir?
http://www.activistchat.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=2382

I can't say I have been much impressed with you till date. And now, after the threats, I am definately much more disappointed in you now

PS. Next time somebody puts you up to do something like this, think (if you can) before you blindly do their bidding

[9karevatan]

talking about rit simply takes the attention away from iran and overthrowing the regime in iran....also i posted things about the mathematical miracle of the quran because there was a 2 hour special program about it on azadi TV...also other times i am just defending the quran from peoples attacks otherwise i only dedicate myself to removing the occupiers in iran
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[reza]

i believe spenta is identifying a pitfall of following a false hero, there is no need to say that she is taking away attention from fighting the regime, i found the article very informative and as such i am now aware of frouhar and his evil past. Also she condemned the regime many times in this post. are you sure you belive spenta is wrong to do this?
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[Liberator]

Dear Spenta,

I came to realize what kind of a despicable person Forohar was through your posts, thank you!

Nonetheless I do not think their daughter, Parastou, has followed in their footsteps...she has in fact done quite a lot for working against the filthy IRI.

Keep up your continuous good work and don't let koran-lovers who have discovered the mathematical MIRACLES of the koran!!! disturb your work!

I salute you as always!
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www.anjomane-padeshahi.org
http://aryamehr11.blogspot.com/

[9karevatan]

[9karevatan]

also as far as anyone or anything that is connected to iran should be put aside or on hold because of 18 tir ....i simply dont think that talking about someone who died and then attacking his life story is going to get us anywhere!!!!!!!!!

18 TIR YADET NARE!!!!!!!!!
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[sudi]

Spenta, thanks for this informative post. Indeed, Iranians have been fooled by many such false heros. And please just ignore the diatribe of the intellectually challenged

[Spenta]

Dear Liberator,

Parastou has done nothing that I can be critical of, and if anything most of what she has done (that I know about it) is quite commendable.

As for Frouhar, even Republicans like Ali Sina of Faithfreedom.org have written many critical things about Frouhar and his group for their part in bringing this disaster to Iran.


9karevatan

My issue isn't with Frouhar's life by the way. I don't have a problem with all the people who had to remain quiet all those years to protect themselves and their families. All the people who weren't willing to get killed, go to jail, go broke, have their daughters raped, have their sons blacklisted from school and endup as heroin addicts etc. for criticising Khomeini. Most people kept their mouths shut to survive and provide for their families, I don't disrespect that, and certainly don't criticise it. But what I have a problem with is creating a cult around someone who is proclaimed as a national 'hero', or portrayed as a great 'dissident' when that person does not deserve the title. These cults as Reza also pointed out are dangerous.

The true heroes were the thousands and thousands of brave Iranian men, women, girls and boys who stood up, spoke up, refused to collaborate with a genocidal murderer like Khomeini, crticised Khomeini, and were brutally killed for it. Those are the heroes, not people like Frouhar, who supported Khomeini and took his patronage and protection!

Anyways the subject came up on another board where someone who always posts cult of Frouhar stuff, posted more Cult of Frouhar stuff. I didn't even bother responding, because I'm tired of debating this guy who worships Frouhar. But even though I had said nothing, the Admin chose to site me as an 'extremist' and 'intolerant' monarchist because of my criticisms of Frouhar in the past. I stated what I had to and left the board, because I don't stick around where I am not wanted. Also, many Republicans like Ali Sina are equally critical of Frouhar. I decided to come here, and post what I had to on Frouhar under General Discussion, as a matter of principal. I didn't post it under Uprising 2004, or the News or any of the other important Topics, but simply under General Discussion.

Look, I catch flack all the time on these boards for posting anti Mullah stuff (you should have seen them crawling out of the woodwork over at SMCCDI attacking me recently). I catch grief all the time for being a Reza Pahlavi supporter and a Constitutional Monarchist. I catch grief for being critical of Bush, and for being a liberal. I catch grief because I've stood up for the rights of the Mojahedeen rank and file. And now, for calling Frouhar a Nazi Collborator, so I'm used to it by now. But this has nothing to do with 18 Tir, and any unity that does not contain within it a diversity of opinion is not unity, but homogeniety. Democracies bring about diversity and unity, autocracies create homogeneity.

We've had enough martyrdom, and enough cults of martyrdom. Nobody should have to martyr themselves for glory anymore, IMO. And if enough people rise up in Iran, there will be no need for violence or martyrdom.

Dear Sudi,

Thank-you for your words of support. There have been too many false heroes indeed. Hopefully we've bottomed out on it.

[9karevatan]

look spenta ....i didnt mean to upset u ....i only want to tell u that we need to stop attacking ppl who are against the regime and only focus on the regime.....all i want is for everyone to hold hands and go to 18 tir and get the job done.....sitting here talking about forohar will acheive nothing....he is dead and if he had any supporters they all went their own way therefore its insignificant to the fighting and struggle of today to critisize him or say hes a so and so....just let it go and look ahead and see who is in power in iran...think about it like this azizam....thousands of political prisoners in cells....do they think about being freed or do they think about if the person who frees them is good or bad....right now all guns must be aimed at the regime and only....


also u mentioned that some cults are dangerous...
dangerous to whomm????????
listen to what u are saying....!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
the whole country of iran is already in danger and the worst possible....
then u tell me that a few supporters of so and so are dangerous????
is it just me or do others realize we are dealing with a government here!!!
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[9karevatan]

[stefania]

Spenta, who attacked you for being a liberal ?

i hope you don't mean it's me, since i did not attack you, i have only expressed my opinion as you expressed yours.

i did not attack you,dear.
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[reza]

[Pantea]