[FREE IRAN Project] In The Spirit Of Cyrus The Great

[reza]

With films such as thermopylae, alexander and most importantly cyrus the great. It is only a matter of time before the iranian national pride is invoked and restored, just as Firdawsi achieved with the shanameh.
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"When on the battlefield if you have the sole intention of breaking into the enemy lines, you will manifest martial valour. Furthermore if you are slain in battle you should be resolved to having your corpse facing the enemy" - Yamamoto tsunetomo

[Equality]

there is a movie about Cyrus the Great? when is it coming?

[reza]

They should be filming over the summer if everythings in order
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"When on the battlefield if you have the sole intention of breaking into the enemy lines, you will manifest martial valour. Furthermore if you are slain in battle you should be resolved to having your corpse facing the enemy" - Yamamoto tsunetomo

[Spenta]

unfortunately in Pakistan

[reza]

Yeah i don't think the mullahs are going to help with this film in any way at all.
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"When on the battlefield if you have the sole intention of breaking into the enemy lines, you will manifest martial valour. Furthermore if you are slain in battle you should be resolved to having your corpse facing the enemy" - Yamamoto tsunetomo

[trainspotter9]

oh I want to see Cyrus the Great!

[reza]

Hell yeah! it's just too bad there are no persian actors to play him, Sean connery is being courted to play him though, he is pretty good
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"When on the battlefield if you have the sole intention of breaking into the enemy lines, you will manifest martial valour. Furthermore if you are slain in battle you should be resolved to having your corpse facing the enemy" - Yamamoto tsunetomo

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They should have had Timothy Dalton palying Cyrus The Great.......

[trainspotter9]

I think the actor who play Captain Jean Luc Picard, Patrick Stewart, could be a good Cyrus.

I think Timothy Dalton would work too.

What I really want though, is an Iranian actor to play Kouroush. I want the entire cast to be Iranians.

The Zoroastrian Persians had an ethnic religion. Their religion forbade them from marry outside of their race. Despite being a tolerant and worldly religion, Zoroastriasm was also highly ethnic. In fact, Judaism became an ethnic religion only after it was influenced by Zoroastriasm. Before, Jews got wives outside of their race, but after the introduction of Zoroastrian ideas, Jews were obligated to marry only within their tribe.

[Spenta]

This is simply not true. Many ancient Persian Kings married outside their ethnic groups, they even married Jewish princesses.

[Guest]

^ Many ancient Persians, especially kings, weren't strict about their religion.

[trainspotter9]

^ Many ancient Persians, especially kings, weren't strict about their religion. Zoroastriasm, when followed strictly, demands of its people to marry within the Persian Zoroastrian race.

[Pantea]

[trainspotter9]

Pantea,

alot of what is said about Zoroastrianism is said by modern Zoroastrians who like to think of their religion as the ultimate universal, all-accepting, all-tolerant, pure religion; the original liberalism. This is simply not the truth of the matter.

This debate about the origins of the Book of Tobit, a biblical book, illustrates the beliefs of the ancient Persians, especially the religious Magi caste:

http://www.studylight.org/enc/isb/view.cgi?number=T8826

(1) The book describes the varying fortunes of Jews in exile so completely and with such keen sympathy as to suggest that the writer was himself one of them.

(2) The affectionate language in which he refers to Jerusalem and its religious associations (Tobit 1:4) is such as a member of the Diaspora would use.

(3) The author nowhere reveals a close personal knowledge of Palestine. That Tobit, the ostensible author (1:1), should be set forth as a native of Galilee (1:1 f) is due to the art of the writer.

Assuming that the book was written in a foreign land, opinions differ as to which. The evidence seems to favor either Persia or Egypt. In favor of Persia is the Persian background of the book. Asmodeus (Tobit 3:8,17) is the Pets Aesma daeva. The duty of burying the dead is suggested to the Jewish writer by the Persian (Zoroastrian) habit of exposing dead bodies on the "Tower of Silence" to be eaten by birds. Consanguineous marriages are forbidden in the Pentateuch (see Leviticus 18:6); but they are favored by Tobit 1:9; 3:15; 4:12; 7:4. The latter seems to show that Tobias and Sarah whom he married were first cousins. Marriages between relatives were common among the Iranians and were defended by the magicians as a religious duty.

Furthermore, if you read what the ancient Greek historian, Herodotus, says about the ancient Persians, it is clear that they believed in their own race's superiority:

http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/ancient/herodotus-persians.html

[Pantea]

Dear trainspotter,

from what I can make up out of your message, you're convinced most people in the old days prevered to marry someone from their own race or even family. Very true indeed some people in Iran and other countries still marry within their own family.

However, this has nothing to do with religion, this has been simply a matter of tradition (wich still exists in some countries) and cultural heritage.
As I pointed out, there's no evidence of that in Avesta. The part I copied in my mail is the only place in the Gathas where Zartosht himself adresses the marriage.
Any restrictions put on zarathushtrians in case of marriage is there for not based on the religon but on the habbits that persians had.