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PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 10:02 am    Post subject: Cartoon Reply with quote


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 11:20 am    Post subject: Iranian Opposition Leader Shunned by Voice of America Reply with quote

Lion Of FREE Iran Ambassador Hakimi wrote:

Dear Mr. Timmerman,

The fault does not lie with the VOA or Radio Farda, it is the State Department’s Fossils who direct VOA & Radio Farda.

Just two days ago recommendation was passed by the US House of Representatives granting funds to help Iranians gain freedom.

But none of them asked what happened to the 75 million Dollars passed earlier for the same aim!!! Amazing, is not it?

If the new funds go through the State Department again, it will fatten the pockets of Trita (None) Parsi, Hooshang Amir Ahmadi, Akbar Ganji & the like, all of them are anti freedom for the Iranian people supporting the present theocratic regime with a little bit of make up!

It is so disheartening to witness such a chaos in US administration.

They are all pulling America apart??

What a disaster for the entire free world!!!

Yours,

Hashem




Kenneth Timmerman wrote:
From: Kenneth Timmerman
Sent: 28. juli 2009 15:55
To: KRT Iran action
Subject: Timmerman/Newsmax: Iranian Opposition leader shunned by VOA


Iranian Opposition Leader Shunned by Voice of America

Monday, July 27, 2009 3:33 PM

By: Kenneth R. Timmerman Article Font Size

In an apparent bow to the Obama administration’s policy of engaging the Iran regardless of its brutal crackdown on the pro-democracy movement, the Voice of America refused to air an interview with an opposition leader who returned to Iran in early July to take part in anti-regime demonstrations.

The leader risked his life to add his voice to the resistance in Iran , only to be shunned by the VOA, who stated that they were worried about legal issues, because the dissident had crossed Iran ’s borders illegally.

Roozbeh Farahanipour, 37, was jailed and tortured by the Islamic Republic authorities 10 years ago for his role in leading the July 1999 student uprising at Tehran University . Since escaping Iran in late 2001, he has lived as a political refugee in the United States .

Farahanipour returned to Iran in early July to coordinate protests across Iran to commemorate the 10th anniversary of the 1999 uprising.

Newsmax spoke to him while he was in Iran by satellite phone.

Read “Anniversary Protests Defy Regime.”

Voice of America ’s Persian Service called Farahanipour’s satellite phone several times while he was in Iran to set up an interview, but editors told the reporter the next day they could not air it.

“They put my security at risk for half a day before actually doing the interview,” Farahanipour told Newsmax recently. “Then editors said they couldn’t air the interview because I had entered Iran clandestinely.”

Sources close to Farahanipour told Newsmax they believe the security breach caused by the VOA led Islamic Republic intelligence agents to a safe house where he spent a day while in Iran .

The raid on the safe house was announced with great fanfare last week by the intelligence services.

Ironically, given his treatment by Voice of America, the Islamic Republic News Agency called Farahanipour “an agent of the United States ,” and boasted of the success of the intelligence services and the police in tracking down and arresting his supporters.

This is not the first time that the VOA has tried to silence critics of the Islamic Republic.

As Newsmax reported last month, VOA Persian Service editors refused to allow regular commentator Mohsen Sazegara to give advice on air that might help demonstrators to be more effective in resisting the regime’s intelligence forces.

Sazegara was a founder of the Islamic Revolution Guards Corps who was jailed and tortured after he went into opposition against the regime in 1990s.

Read “Key Iranian Dissident Riled at Obama's Approach.”

Original story: http://www.newsmax.com/timmerman/Farahanipour_voa_iran/2009/07/27/240539.html

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 8:56 pm    Post subject: What has Nazanin been up to? Reply with quote

Nazanin wrote:


What has Nazanin been up to?

Since Iran’s June uprisings, human rights defender Nazanin Afshin-Jam has been on the go attending meetings, speaking at conferences and rallies in solidarity with the Iranian people and now she wants to hear from you. What is the next step for Iran?

Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper met with Nazanin and other representatives of the Persian-Canadian community in British Columbia to hear their perspectives on the situation currently unfolding in Iran, August 4, 2009.


See picture here: http://www.daylife.com/photo/0g0W3n3ffOfYM

After the meeting, Prime Minister Harper issued a statement about the regime in Iran, its handling of the disputed June presidential elections and its subsequent violent crackdown against protesters:

"Our position on Iran is clear - the recent actions by the Iranian authorities are unacceptable to us and inconsistent with any tolerable standard of human rights,'' Prime Minister Harper said in the statement. "Iran must stop using violence against its own people, release political prisoners and journalists who have been unjustly detained and allow both domestic and international media to report freely. Our government also stands proudly with the people of Iran and with members of our own Persian community who are demanding a full and transparent investigation into allegations of electoral fraud during June's Presidential vote.''

Full article here: http://news.gc.ca/web/article-eng.do?m=/index&nid=471659

After the meeting Nazanin said: "I am proud that Canada's Prime Minister, Stephen Harper, does not recognize Ahmadinejad as the legitimate President of Iran. It was impressive how much the PM knew about the human rights abuses taking place in Iran. The Minister of Immigration, Citizenship and Multiculturalism, Jason Kenney who was also present spoke about how the Iranian government is not allowing Canada to have any more agents in the embassy in Iran to process visa applications. I would really like to see the Iranian-Canadian Diaspora unite in forming a Think Tank or Commission of sorts to provide practical recommendations to our government on how they should deal with the Iran crisis."

Points Nazanin had raised with Stephen Harper, Jason Kenney and other Canadian Members of Parliament including Minister of Defence Peter Mackay, Andrew Saxton and official liaison to the Persian community John Weston in the last few weeks include:


- Not recognizing Ahmadinejad and his regime as the legitimate representatives of the Iranian people. Following Chancellor Merkel’s example by not congratulating him or sending diplomats at his inauguration. Supporting and standing in solidarity with the freedom-loving members of the civil society in Iran who want democracy, equality, the rule of law and human rights.


- Taking a lead role in calling the UN’s Human Rights Council to create an immediate independent and international commission to investigate the grave human rights violations that have taken place pre and post election and urging for the release of all political prisoners

- Iran would not be able to accuse Canada of instigating a velvet revolution, as it has in the cases of the United States, Israel and Britain. Canada has a unique role in using harsher language and force to condemn Iran for human rights violations and allying itself with other more “neutral” and “smaller democracies” including the Scandinavian countries in warning Iranian officials that such crimes will not go with impunity and noncompliance will eventually lead to individuals being tried at the ICC.

- Imposing asset freezes and travel bans on Iranian officials trying to enter Canadian borders.

- Monitoring more closely who is permitted to enter Canada. For example not allowing those like Iran’s Vice President Mr. Esfandyar Rahim Mashaei from entering and giving lectures across Canada as had taken place in March of this year, and allowing people like Shadi Sadr, a well recognized feminist and lawyer who was denied a visa in May to speak at York University. Allowing more student visas to be processed.

- Support Iranian-Canadian NGO’s to be a part of Canada’s delegation to testify against the Islamic Republic of Iran’s human rights abuses at the Universal Periodic Review in February 2010.

- Support the creation of an Iranian-Canadian Commission or Think Tank with leading scholars and experts from the Iranian Diaspora to provide constructive recommendations to the Canadian government on the role it could play in the Iran crisis. This would include suggestions regarding Iran’s nuclear program, world security issues and human rights.

For more of Nazanin’s views and recommendations please see the featured article in the National Post "A Persian Prison State" here:

http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=1814570

After millions of people poured out on the streets of Iran following the June 12th fraudulent Presidential (s)elections, hundreds of dissidents have disappeared or have been killed; thousands more have been detained as political prisoners. This week many of those detained stand on trial. It is feared that there could be mass executions in the coming months. As most of those who bravely stood up against the brutality of the current regime were youth, President and Co-Founder of Stop Child Executions Organization, Nazanin Afshin-Jam fears that there could be a surge in juvenile executions. She recently wrote and launched a report with her SCE team in the UK parliament in collaboration with Tahirih Danesh and the Foreign Policy Centre on juvenile executions in Iran. This report will also be submitted to the United Nations prior to Iran's Universal Periodic Review in February 2010.

This comprehensive report "From Cradle to Coffin" can be downloaded here:

http://fpc.org.uk/fsblob/1063.pdf (The report in Persian will be available soon)

Nazanin’s newest version of her song “Someday: the Revolution Song” dedicated to the Iranian people and those who live under oppressive regimes can be found here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqkSmpKkfdI

Nazanin has also been speaking at various rallies and demonstrations and conducting media interviews by echoing the voices of the Iranian people to the outside world:

- Nazanin in Washington DC with famous ex-political prisoners including Ahmad Batebi, the band KIOSK, and journalists Rudi Bakhtiar and Luna Shad.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b27PbvEUvyg


- Nazanin in Vancouver on Global Action Day for Iran speaks at a rally organized by the Iranian Canadian Congress and sings at another one by silentscream alongside Rock Star Bif Naked http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpJJVFCeNTE

- Nazanin speaks at “Rose of Peace” alongside Member of Parliament Andrew Saxton and Minister of State for Foreign Affairs Peter Ken http://www.andrewsaxton.ca/index.php?option=com_phocagallery&view=category&id=43:roses-of-peace-forum-with-peter-kent&Itemid=60

- Nazanin in Edmonton for the Global Youth Assembly with the Governor General of Canada Michaëlle Jean and other amazing activists.

http://www.youthassembly.ca/dnn/Program/2009Schedule/tabid/65/Default.aspx

- Nazanin attended an intensive summer course at the Fletcher School of Law and Diplomacy at Tufts University in collaboration with the International Centre on Nonviolent Conflict. She recommends checking out the centre for tactics and strategies in non violent civil disobedience. They have great materials (in many languages). http://www.nonviolent-conflict.org/


Nazanin is currently working on the creation of a social network site for the socially conscious called “United Voices of the World”. The first chapter of this project will focus on the section “United Voices of Iran” which aims to unite the Iranian Diaspora in support of human rights projects for Iran. She is also trying to help unify Iranian and non-Iranian celebrities for a mass music project which could include a joint song, a compilation CD and/or a live Global concert for Iran.

Nazanin is in talks with Canadian members of Parliament to try and set up an official panel to start the dialogue on the next steps that can be taken to help the civil society in Iran.


Nazanin is a full time volunteer dedicated to human rights. She is an independent and is not part of any political group or organization. If you have any ideas or ways you can help support these and other initiatives Nazanin would like to hear from you. Please contact her office at info@nazanin.ca If you would like to make a tax deductable donation to help cover some of Nazanin’s campaign costs please donate to her 501c3 nonprofit organization Stop Child Executions at www.stopchildexecutions.com
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 3:58 pm    Post subject: A 19-year old beautiful Taraneh was not shot with a single b Reply with quote

Reza Alamehzadeh wrote:

Rape in prisons of Iran, 2nd witness

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyfjZiSMrts

Reza Alamehzadeh interviews 2nd. victim of rape in prisons of Islamic regime of Iran. Farsi with English subtitle.
مصاحبه با قربانی دیگری از تجاوز جننسی در زندن های جمهوری اسلامی ایران. توضیح در این مورد را در وبلاگ شخصی من بخوانید

http://reza.malakut.org


Amil Imani wrote:

A 19-year old beautiful Taraneh was not shot with a single bullet to her chest as was the case with Neda Soltani.
Amil Iman
Saturday, 15 August 2009

http://www.amilimani.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=153&Itemid=2

The Iranian people are calling for help and much of the world either turns a deaf ear or feels it has its own priorities to worry about. Then, the horrors keep playing out, unabated, in the streets, prisons and dungeons of the Islamic Republic of Iran. A reality check.

A 19-year old beautiful Taraneh was not shot with a single bullet to her chest as was the case with Neda Soltani. There were no bystanders in the dungeon with a cell phone to capture the prolonged torture, rape, and sodomy of this teen-ager.

According to reports, as well as testimony on the House floor from the honorable U.S. Congressman McCotter, on June 28, 2009, Taraneh Mousavi, a young Iranian woman, was literally scooped off the streets without any provocation on her part and with no arrest warrant. This young woman was taken to one of the Islamists torture chambers where she was repeatedly brutalized, raped, and sodomized by Ahmadinejad’s agents and with the consent of the “supreme leader” Ali Khamenei.

....................

Tragically, there are people in position of power who turn a blind eye to these horrors with their sole concern for their own self-interests. When Robert Gibbs, spokesman for the White House, shamelessly declares that Mahmood Ahmadinejad, the fraud, is the elected President of Iran, one wonders about Gibbs’ humaneness. How would Gibbs feel if Taraneh was his daughter and Ahmadinejad had her blood on his hands? Would Gibbs, or for that matter President Obama, call this murderer Ahmadinejad, a duly-elected President worthy of shaking his blood-stained hand?

Reality check shows that fascism is being practiced once again, this time in Iran, and once again, many powerful people such as Gibbs of the White house and Ban of the United Nations fail not only to express their condemnation, they proceed by bestowing legitimacy on the murderers and their rule.





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PostPosted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 7:48 pm    Post subject: Rape Case Operation By Dr. Fazeli Reply with quote

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آن که روزنامه توقیف می کند همان است که دستور تجاوز داده
شهادت جراح معروف
و دستیارش از تجاوز به زندانی
این گزارش را با هدف انتشار، به آدرس پیک نت ارسال داشته اند

http://www.peiknet.com/1388/08mor/27/PAGE/34GOZARESH.htm


دکتر فاضلی که از جراحان بنام است دیروز صبح به من گفت: دوست دارم امروز تو دستیارم باشی. با کمال میل قبول کردم چون همیشه جراحی های خیلی سخت عروقی نورونی را انجام می داد و کلی نکته جدید در هربار دستیاری یاد می گرفتم اما این بار یک عمل ساده بود. یک کیست مقعدی.

دکتر فاضلی احتمالا حوصله نداشت خودش عمل کند مرا به ظاهر دستیار کرده بود. من به آرامی کیست را جدا کردم اما زمانی که خارجش کردم متوجه شدم کیست نیست و یک توده ی عفونی است و برای "پاتو" آنرا بسته بندی کردم. دکتر بعد از عمل از من خواهش کرد که شخصا به آزمایشگاه بروم و جواب را بگیرم و به دکتر روحانی بگویم که نهایت دقت را بکنند چرا که این بیمار از بستگان دکتر هستند. حالا فهمیدم چرا دکتر عمل به این سادگی را قبول کرده. بی علاقه به آزمایشگاه رفتم و ظرف را تحویل دادم و 40دقیقه ایی با دکتر روحانی گرم صحبت شده بودم که جواب آمد Chlamydia یک بیماری عفونی آمیزشی اما با این سطح خیلی عجیب بود. سطح درگیری آنقدر زیاد بود که دکتر به جای درمان دارویی از جراحی استفاده کرده بود. به اتاق دکتر رسیدم و گفتم Chlamydiaاست. دکتر بدون توجه به من گفت: علی می دانی چرا امروز از تو خواستم که دستیار من باشی؟ بی مهابا گفتم چون در شان شما نبود. دکتر لبخندی زد و گفت نه مثل همیشه اشتباه کردی- این بیمار از بستگان ماست که تازه از زندان آزاد شده. می دانی این عفونت از چه راهی انتقال پیدا می کند؟

برق از سرم پرید. اولین موردی بود که می دیدم و خودم عملش می کردم. گفت می خواهم با باقری لنکرانی تماس بگیرم و همه چیز را بگویم. گفت حالا برو ببین وضعش چه طور است. مات و مبهوت مانده بودم. گفتم دکتر با چه کسی آمده است؟ خانواده اش خبر دارند؟ گفت علی جان آرام باش هیچکس خبر از این موضوع تجاوز جز من و تو ندارد حتی خانواده اش .

گفتم یعنی نگفته است؟ بیچاره حتما خجالت کشیده. گفت نمی دانم می خواهی هنگام ویزیت دکتر جعفری تو هم حضور داشته باش(دکتر فاضلی همیشه بعد از عمل بیمارانش را برای معاینه روانپزشکی به دکتر جعفری می سپارد)

ساعت 6 دکتر جعفری آمد و به اتفاق به اتاق بیمار رفتیم. چند سوال کرد که او هم یک سری جواب شکسته بسته داد و دکتر از من خواست که ایشان را تنها بگذارم. نیم ساعتی بیرون ماندم و بیرون آمد. گفت هیچ چیز یادش نمی آید. می دانی یعنی چه دکتر؟ گفتم عوارض بیهوشی. گفت نه احتمالا * rohypnol گفتم دکتر مگر می شود؟ آنقدر حالم بد شد که دکتر جعفری مرا به پاویون رساند و پرستار برایم آب قندی آورد. گفتم دکتر چرا در حکومت اسلامی که این کار از مذموم ترین کارهاست همچین اتفاقی می افتد؟ گفت ببین این عمل چند هدف را دنبال می کند

1- ایجاد ترس وارعاب در جامعه

2- ایجاد خشونت و ترویج آن در جامعه:تصور کن در زندان با دست های بسته به شما تجاوز کنند و هیچ کاری نتوانی انجام دهی. اکثر قریب به اتفاق افراد حاضرند بمیرند و این عمل با آنها انجام نشود. پس در همین مرحله یا دست از جان می شویی و دیگر هیچ چیز برایت اهمیت ندارد جز انتقام یا اینکه دیگر هیچوقت جرات و جسارتی برایت باقی نمی ماند که هر دو از عوامل خشونت هستند و از طرف دیگر تاثیری که روی اطرافیانت می گذارد. تصور کن بچه تو را کسی بکشد. ممکن است از قصاص او بگذری اما اگر بفهمی کسی به فرزندت تجاوز کرده تحت هیچ شرایطی حاضر نمی شوی شخص را ببخشی. حتی به قیمت مرگ. یادت باشد که خشونت عامل نابودی جنبش های مدنی صلح آمیز است. سردمداران حکومت هر کاری می کنند تا بتوانند احساسات جامعه را جریحه دار کنند و پس از آن مردم دست به حرکات خشونت آمیز بزنند تا مجوزی بگیرند برای بستن مردم به گلوله.
اما اتفاق جدی تری که برای شخصی که به او تجاوز شده است می افتد اینست از او یک فرد افسرده و منفعل می سازد. تجاوز شکستن و خرد کردن افرادی است که باشکنجه های معمول خرد نمی شوند. معمولا این افراد انسانهایی هستند که از لحاظ روحی بسیار قوی هستند و معمولا اگر این افراد تحت درمان دارویی قرار نگیرند خودکشی می کنند چرا که دایم در این فکر هستند که از حرمت شرف خودشان نتوانسته اند دفاع کنند و از طرفی با منفعل شدن آنها نظام را تهدید نمی کنند و تازه ثابت کردن این موضوع از همه چیز سخت تر است چرا که هم تشخیص تجاوز جنسی به عهده پزشک قانونی است که در انحصار دولت است وهم به دلیل گذشت زمان به علت نبود علامت مثبت تقریباً غیرممکن است. و جالبتراینکه بیشترافراد مایل به معاینه پزشکی، بازجویی پلیس و رسیدگی دادگاه نیستند. و از طرف دیگرامران فقط بر اساس شهادت گواهان محکوم نمی‌شوند و باید مدارک تأیید کننده از دیگران کسب شود. مدارک مربوط به اثبات دخول، هویت تجاوز کننده و... .به دکتر فاضلی زنگ زدم و شرح ما وقع را گفتم و گفتم که می خواهم این موضوع را منتشر کنم. گفت فعلا دست نگه دارم تا نه سر خود را به باد دهم نه سر بیمارم را .

امروز با دکتر فاضلی قرار دارم. می خوام پیشنهاد بدهم یک نامه بنویسیم راجع به این موضوع به رئیس مجلسی که می گوید تجاوز جنسی اتفاق نیافتاده و امضای تمام پزشک هایی که می شود را بعد از معاینه بگیرم.

بعد از تجاوز قرص هائی به زندانی میدهند. اگر از این قرص به این بازداشتی ها داده باشند آنوقت ثابت کردن تجاوز خیلی سخت است. چون نهایتا تا 72 ساعت در ادرار قابل شناسائی است.

حالا حداقل یک مورد در دست خودمان است.

ضمنا اگر آشنایی دارید که تازه از زندان آزاد شده حتما پست بعدی رو بخوانید و اگر حتی گفت بهش تجاوز نشده حتما کارهایی که گفتم را انجام بدهید، چون اگر بهش روهیپنول داده باشند هیچی یادش نمی یاد.

*rohypnol:روهیپنول یا روفیز دارویی است از خانواده داروهای خواب آور و از طبقه ی پام ها با قدرتی بسیار بالاتر که به دلیل تاثیرات بسیار قوی و طولانی که این دارو در خاموش سازی مرکز سیستم عصبی اعمال می کند به "داروی تجاوز " معروف است. عوارض این دارو استفراغ ، توهم، دشواری در تنفس، کما و فراموشی کامل، اختلال در تکلم و یا حتی مرگ است.





تعدادي از پاسخ هاي شرعي استاد مصباح به سوالات اصحاب ولايت در زمينه تجاوز

جنسي




1- آيا اعتراف گيري تحت فشار و شکنجه روحي و رواني و جسمي اعتبار اسلامي دارد ؟

ج - اعتراف گيري از ضد ولايت فقيه به هر شکلي جايز است


2- اعتراف گيري با استفاده از مواد مخدر و افيون و داروهاي کدوئينه جايز است ؟

ج - اعتراف گيري از ضد ولايت مطلقه به هر شکلي جايز است .


3- آيا بازجو ميتواند به زنداني20تجاوز جنسي کند تا اعتراف بگيرد ؟

ج
- احتياط واجب آن است که قبل از اينکار حتما وضو بگيرد و هنگام عمل ذکر
گويد .اگرزنداني زن است هم از فرج و هم از دوبر دخول اشکال ندارد بهتر است
در محل بازجويي کس ديگري نباشد . اما اگر زنداني مرد است احوط است در حضور
ديگر باز جويان دخول صورت گيرد


4- اگر زن زنداني حامله شود تکليف چيست ؟ يا آن فرزند حرامزاده است ؟

ج
- فرز
د ضعيفه ضد ولايت مطلقه فقيه مطابق نص قران مجيد در هر صورت
حرامزاده است چه توسط بازجو باردار شود چه توسط شوهرش . اما اگر بازجو
فرزندي طفل متولد شده را گردن نهد ، بنابر احتياط واجب طفل حلالزاده و
شيعه اثني عشري است .

5- آيا تجاوز جنسي در زندان به مردها و پسران جوان لواط محسوب نمي شود ؟

خير
. چون زنداني بدون ميل و رغبت به آن تن داده است . البته اگر جوان مفعول
را خوشA
7مده باشد احتياط مستحب آن است که ديگر اين عمل تکرار نگردد .


6- تجاوز به دختران باکره در زندان چه حکمي دارد ؟

ج
- اگر قرار است زن را اعدام کنند ، براي بازجو به اندازه يک حج تمتع واجب
صواب دارد و به همان اندازه بر گناهان دختر افزوده ميشود . اما اگر زنداني
قرار نيست اعدام شود ، به اندازه زيارت کربلا براي بازجو صواب دارد

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 10:17 am    Post subject: HOW DID JEFFERSON KNOW Reply with quote

Kurosh Kalhor wrote:

HOW DID JEFFERSON KNOW??????

(Especially read the last quote from 1802)



When we get piled upon one another in large cities, as in Europe,
we shall become as corrupt as Europe.
Thomas Jefferson

The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those
who are willing to work and give to those who would not.
Thomas Jefferson

It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes.
A principle which if acted on would save one-half the wars of the world.
Thomas Jefferson

I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the
government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.
Thomas Jefferson

My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government..
Thomas Jefferson

No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms.
Thomas Jefferson

The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.
Thomas Jefferson

The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
Thomas Jefferson

To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.
Thomas Jefferson

Thomas Jefferson said in 1802:

'I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around the banks will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered..'

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Obama Ramadan Message

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/21/obama-ramadan-message-may_n_265134.html

The President's message is part of an on-going dialogue with Muslim communities that began on inauguration day and has continued with his statement on Nowruz, during trips to Ankara and Cairo, and with interviews with media outlets such as Al Arabiya and Dawn TV.


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fasting during ramazan is BAD for health !!!
"allah" has no idea about medicine !!!


http://www.geocities.com/hammihanirani/articles/fasting.html

Saturday, January 3, 1998

Fasting has adverse impact on the body

By Lisa Lytle

The Orange County Register

For millions of people of various religions, fasting retains its centuries-old meaning: the emptying of the vessel -- the human body -- so that something else may fill the space.

Faithful practitioners of fasting say they experience a feeling of enlightenment, a sense of closeness to the deity upon which they place their faith.

Yet fasting also has become a weight-loss fad. It is shamelessly hawked over the Internet and in self-help books as a way to physiologically cleanse or "remove toxins from the body."

And that's what concerns physicians. Detoxification benefits remain unproven while, in fact, the opposite can happen, says Dr. C. Wayne Callaway, a specialist in endocrinology, metabolism and clinical nutrition at George Washington University Medical School.

Ketosis sets in when you fast for more than 18 hours, says Dr. William Daughaday, clinical professor specializing in endocrinology and metabolism at the University of California, Irvine. "You're burning so much fat that your body can't handle effects of byproducts of fat oxidation."

Fasting can exacerbate conditions, including Refsum's disease and Reye's syndrome, he said. Neurologic problems can result.

"The longer the fast, the greater the risk of gall bladder disease," Callaway says. "The risk goes up to about 67 percent. And if you've lost at least 22 pounds, the risk doubles."

When you fast, your blood pressure, blood sugar and blood fats decrease, but these are transient effects, Callaway says. "They go up as soon as you eat."

Ditto for weight. Sure, a long period of fasting can make you lose about half a pound a day -- and lessen your appetite, but you gain them back once you eat, Daughaday says. Worse, you also lose bone and muscle.

But doctors don't dispute spiritual benefits. "The spiritual side is quite valid," Callaway says. "There are biochemical changes that occur in the body during fasting and that may be part of the spiritual aspect. For example, in fasting, one would have a greater propensity to have visions [halucinations]."

NO KIDDING !!! Depriving your brain of glucose and vital nutrients obviously would make your brain go crazy and start halucinating !!! These are not "visions", they are halucinations caused by a STARVING BRAIN !!!

fasting makes people irritable !!!! This is NOT good for society !!!


Irritability during the month of Ramadan.
Kadri N, Tilane A, El Batal M, Taltit Y, Tahiri SM, Moussaoui D
Psychosomatic Medicine 2000 Mar-Apr 62:2 280-5

Abstract
OBJECTIVES: We hypothesized that people in Morocco are more irritable during the month of Ramadan than during the rest of the year. Our objectives were to measure irritability in fasting Muslims during the month of Ramadan, to describe its various modes of expression, and to examine risk factors for this irritability. METHODS AND SUBJECTS: We studied 100 healthy volunteers during the month of Ramadan for two successive years (1994 and 1995). All subjects were male (mean age, 32+/-5.8 years), and 51% of them were smokers. Irritability was assessed over a 6-week period (before, four times during, and after the end of Ramadan). We assessed both subjective (visual analog scale) and objective irritability. We also recorded the consumption of psychostimulants, duration of sleep, and anxiety level as measured by the Hamilton Anxiety Scale. RESULTS: Irritability was significantly higher in smokers than in nonsmokers before the beginning of Ramadan. It was higher in both groups during the Ramadan month. Irritability increased continuously during Ramadan and reached its peak at the end of the month. Consumption of psychostimulants (coffee and tea) and anxiety level followed the same pattern. Smokers and nonsmokers had a similar pattern of irritability over time, but irritability increased more in smokers than in nonsmokers.


[Ramadan. A month of fasting with risk for both nocturnal overeating, dehydration and starving]
Rössner S
Lakartidningen 1997 May 21 94:21 2017

Ramadan diet restrictions modify the circadian time structure in humans. A study on plasma gastrin, insulin, glucose, and calcium and on gastric pH.
Iraki L, Bogdan A, Hakkou F, Amrani N, Abkari A, Touitou Y
Journal of Clinical Endocrinology and Metabolism 1997 Apr 82:4 1261-73

Abstract
The rule of Ramadan (1 month of food and water intakes restricted to night hours) is followed by the majority of the Moslem fraction of the human population, but the possible consequences of this long-lasting modification of food intake schedule on public health have not yet been extensively documented. Therefore, a group of healthy control subjects and a group of healed duodenal ulcer patients were studied before (controls), during (both groups), and after (both groups) the month of Ramadan. The time-restricted food and water intakes were associated with variations of gastric pH, plasma gastrin, insulin, glucose, and calcium documented on a circadian basis. All of the studied biological variables, except insulin, underwent changes in their 24-h mean concentration (e.g. decrease in gastric pH, increase in plasma gastrin), some of which were still present 1 month after the end of Ramadan. The circadian patterns of all the studied variables were altered during the month of Ramadan. Some differences between the group of healthy control subjects and the group of healed duodenal ulcer patients may suggest a greater susceptibility of the latter to the modifications of feeding and sleeping schedule, which could possibly be a risk factor for the disease.


fasting is bad for productivity and work !!!

The health risks of occupational stress in islamic industrial workers during the Ramadan fasting period.
Schmahl FW, Metzler B
Polish Journal of Occupational Medince 1991 4:3 219-28

Abstract

During Ramadan, Moslems are required strictly to avoid fluids and nourishment from dawn to sunset. Heat stress during such abstinence represents a substantial health hazard. In the Federal Republic of Germany (FRG) where numerous Moslems, particularly of Turkish origin, perform heat work and other heavy labour, we observed moderate to severe health disturbances in such labourers during Ramadan, e.g.: tachycardia, severe headaches, dizziness, nausea, vomiting and circulatory collapse. The severe dehydration of these workers was demonstrated by substantial increases in their hematocrit, serum protein, urea, creatinine, uric acid and electrolyte imbalance. Because of the evidence of the substantial health hazard to Islamic workers in such situations, we have strongly urged employers to refrain from assigning Islamic workers to heat work or heavy daytime work during Ramadan; we have therefore limited systematic studies of health problems during Ramadan to persons performing only moderate work. Even under these conditions signs of dehydration were found in the 32 labourers monitored. Some of these labourers also had to interrupt their observance of Ramadan due to health problems, e.g.: acute gout due to serum uric acid increase, or circulatory insufficiency. In light of the observed potentially harmful pathophysiological effects, the danger of dehydration of Islamic workers due to heat work during Ramadan should be taken very seriously.(ABSTRACT TRUNCATED AT 250 WORDS)

Some behavioural changes observed among fasting subjects, their nutritional habits and energy expenditure in Ramadan. Karaaðaoðlu N, Yücecan S International Journal of Food Science and Nutrition 2000 Mar 51:125-34

Abstract
This study was conducted in five provinces and food consumption, physical activity types and duration for 3 consecutive days were recorded in the questionnaire together with some general characteristics of 750 (320 males, 430 females) adults who were on fast during Ramadan at time of interview. One hundred and eighty-seven subjects had some type of health problems, among whom 60.4% were using drugs, and 31.6% were on diets; however, during Ramadan 9.7 and 18.8% of the subjects dropped taking drugs and did not regularly keep on diets, respectively. During the fasting time, from dawn to sunset, 34.3% of the subjects developed some behavioural disturbances, such as feeling tired and being unwilling to work. Although the meal consumed at dawn consisted of foods that were usually eaten at breakfast, the meal consumed at sunset consisted of a great variety of foods. Calcium intake was the most insufficiently consumed nutrient. It was observed that the daily energy intakes were less than the expenditures both in males and females. Further research should be done on the effects of fasting in health and disease.

Daytime alertness, mood, psychomotor performances, and oral temperature during Rramadan intermittent fasting. Roky R, Iraki L, HajKhlifa R, Lakhdar Ghazal N, Hakkou F Annals of Nutrition and Metabolism 2000 44:101-7

Abstract
During the month of Ramadan, Moslems abstain from drinking and eating daily between sunrise and sunset. This change of meals schedule is accompanied with changes in sleep habit, which may affect diurnal alertness. This study examined the effect of Ramadan intermittent fasting on the diurnal alertness and oral temperature in 10 healthy young subjects. The cognitive task battery including movement reaction time (MRT), critical flicker fusion (CFF) and visual analogue scale, was administered at 6 different times of the day: 09.00, 11.00, 13.00, 16.00, 20.00 and 23.00 h on the 6th, 15th, and 28th days of Ramadan. The baseline day was scheduled one week before Ramadan, and the recovery day 18 days after this month. Oral temperature was measured prior to each test session and at 00.00 h. During Ramadan oral temperature decreased at 09.00, 11.00, 13.00, 16.00 and 20.00 h and increased at 23.00 and 00.00 h. Subjective alertness decreased at 09.00 and 16.00 h and increased at 23.00 h. Mood decreased at 16.00 h. MRT was increased at the beginning of Ramadan (R6) and CFF was not changed. These results showed that daytime oral temperature, subjective alertness and mood were decreased during Ramadan intermittent fasting.

Epidemiological study: chronotype and daytime sleepiness before and during Ramadan.
Taoudi Benchekroun M, Roky R, Toufiq J, Benaji B, Hakkou F
Therapie 54:567-72

Abstract
Few epidemiological data have been reported on the relation between Ramadan fasting, life habits (meal frequency, sleep habits) and daytime sleepiness during Ramadan. This paper presents the results of a detailed study of the chronotype and daytime sleepiness before and during Ramadan. It was conducted on a sample of 264 subjects aged between 20 and 30 years. Results have revealed a significant decrease in the meal frequency during Ramadan compared with the control period. Before Ramadan, the majority of subjects woke up between 6 and 7 a.m. and went to sleep between 10 and 11 p.m. however, during Ramadan fasting, they woke up after 8 a.m. and preferred to go to sleep later (after midnight). Chronotype as evaluated by the Horne and Ostberg scale was changed significantly during Ramadan: an increase of the evening type and a decrease in the morning type of subjects was observed. Daytime sleepiness as evaluated by the Epworth Sleepiness Scale was significantly increased.


"tired and being unwilling to work"
"subjective alertness and mood were decreased"
"Daytime sleepiness was significantly increased"

you can't have a productive and progressive country when the whole population turns into a bunch of lazy, irratable, moody bums for a whole month out of the year !
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ماه رمضان از راه رسیده است.در کشور همیشه تعطیل ما اوضاع در همه جا بدتر از همیشه می شود. مردم همه عصبانی و کج خلق هستند.در دفتر ما چند نفری که روزه می گیرند کج خلق و بداخلاق و به اقرار خودشان قدرت جسمی و فکریشان پایین امده است و خیلی زودتر از همیشه خسته میشوند. همکاران به ما روزه خواران می گویند جلوی ما روزه خواری نکنید. من به انها گفتم اگر دوست دارید زجر بکشید غذا خوردن ما را هم ببینید تا بیشتر زجر کشیده و در آن دنیا از حوریان بهشتی بیشتری نصیب ببرید.

اما انچه بیشتر انگیزه ی نوشتن این مقاله است، این است که در مترو خانمی از شدت ضعف غش کرد. هیچ کس نمی دانست باید چکار کند. یکی آب به صورتش می پاشید، یکی می گفت شکلاتش بدهید قند خونش پایین امده، آن دیگری می گفت نه هنوز افطار نشده روزه اش باطل می شود.

هر چه به روزه داران می گفتم که روزه برای بدن مضرر است نمی پذیرفتند و می گفتند دکتری در تلویزیون آمده و از فوائد روزه گفته است. گفتم در یک کشور اسلامی هرگز دکتری را نمی آورند که در کنار هزار فوائد خوبی که ذکر می کند به یک آسیب بدنی هم اشاره کند.قبول نمی کردند. از این رو تصمیم گرفتم خودم در این مورد تحقیق کنم.

سابقه تاریخی روزه
روزه قدمتی چند هزار ساله دارد. تمام ادیان از جمله مسیحیت، یهودیت، اسلام و ادیان شرقی دیگر روزه را راهی برای نزدیکی و ارتباط با خدا می دانند. کسانیکه روزه می گیرند ادعا می کنند که قدرت روحی آنها افزایش پیدا کرده است.

دکتر کالاوی می گوید هرچه روزه طولانی تر باشد احتمال مبتلا شدن به سنگ کیسه صفرا بیشتر می شود. اما برای کسب حالات روحی خوب است.کسانیکه روزه می گیرند احساس می کنند چیزی به انها الهام می شود یا حتی گاهی ادعای دریافت وحی می کنند. دکتر کالاوی می گوید این شوخی نیست گلوکز مغز که پایین می آید حالتی از دیوانگی موقت پیش می آید که باعث فرو رفتن شخص در اوهام و خیالات می شود. من فکر می کنم روزه داریهای حضرت محمد در غار حرا بود که باعث ایجاد توهم وحی در او شده بود.

از فوائدی که برای روزه بر شمرده اند استراحت سیستم گوارشی، حذف سموم بدن و ایجاد یک حالت روحی خوب است.
الیزابت سومر متحصص تغذیه از دانشگاه لویولا می گوید اگر درست غذا بخورید، سیستم بدنتان نیاز به کار اضافی ندارد. از غذا نخوردن یکباره به روزه رفتن شوک به بدن وارد می شود.پایین آمدن گلوگز به میزان 50 درصد باعث فشار زیادی به بدن می شود. دکتر وش می گوید بی غذا مانند تاثیری همانند مصرف الکل بر مغز دارد. بدن پس از 12 ساعت روزه شروع به استفاده از ذخایر گلوکز می کند.
دکتر مارک دمائو استادیار دانشکده پزشکی لویولا و معاون مدیر مرکز تغذیه می گوید من هیچ فایده ای برای روزه نمی بینم. بنابراین آن را توصیه نمی کنم.گیل سامر فیلد همکار این دکتر می گوید من کاملاً مخالف نخوردن غذاهای جامد برای 24ساعت نیستم.به شرطی که مقدار زیادی آب نوشیده شود و در طول هفته تمام مواد غذایی به بدن برسد.

دکتر راکوفسکی می گوید: علی رغم فشاری که روزه بر بدن وارد می آورد با آن مخالفتی ندارم. خوب است که هفته ای یک روز یا ماهی دو روز روزه بگیریم. چون سییتم گوارشی تمیز می شود.ولی راه بهتر آن است که میزان کالری را به میزان 50 درصد با خوردن مواد گیاهی کاهش دهیم و این شیوه در سرتاسر عمر ادامه یابد.

دکتر پال ونیز در میان دلایل خوبی که برای روزه قائل است آن را برای کاهش وزن بدن مناسب نمی داند. چون بیشتر افراد سه روز که روزه می گیرند گزارش می دهند که اضافه وزن پیدا کرده اند.چون بدن فکر می کند که وارد قحط سالی شده است و از خودش با آهسته کردن متابولیسم دفاع می کند تا کالری بدن را حفظ کند.

متخصصین تغذیه بر این باورند که روزه برای جوانها و مسنها خوب نیست. قبل از سن 18 تا 20، بدن هنوز در حال ساخت استخوان، ماهیچه و سلولهای مغزی است. بعد از 40 تا 45 سالگی کم کم انها را از دست می دهد.قبل از بلوغ به تغذیه برای ساخت احتیاج دارد و در میانسالی برای جلوگیری از زوال آنها. روزه حتی برای 10 الی 12 ساعت باعث کاهش کلسیم می شود.
اما متخصصین تغذیه می گویند اینکه بعضی از افراد برای سلامتی نیاز به روزه دارند همه نمی توانند از یک الگو پیروی کنند. هر شخصی مطابق با نیاز بدنش به یک شیوه خاص روزه نیاز دارد. مثلاً بعضی از غذاهای جامد را بعضی از فراد نباید بخورند. یا نخوردن بعضی از چیزهای آبکی را برای دسته ای دیگر توصیه می کنند.
کمبود کالری اثر بسیار بدی بر بدن دارد.چون گلوکز که پایین بیاید جگر گلیکوژن ذخیره شده رابه گلوکز و انرژی تبدیل می کند. مغز برای فعالیت به گلوکز مستقیم نیاز دارد. بنابریان باید ان را یا با شکست پروتئین بدست آورد یا از اسیدهای چرب. چون بدن در برابر شکست پروتئین مقاومت می کند، بنابراین بدن از اسیدهای چرب استفاده می کند که پس از تبدیل اسیدهای چرب به کربوهیدرات، منبع اولیه انرژی تامین می شوند. برای این عملکرد بدن به مقدار بسیار زیادی آب نیاز دارد.

روزه برای بسیاری از بیماران از جمله هر دونوع دیابت ، هپاتیت، ایدز و سرطان مضر است.کسانیکه ناراحتی کلیه دارند نباید روزه بگیرند. نرسیدن آب به بدن عملکرد کلیه را بیشتر دچار اختلال می کند.تعریق زیاد در فصل تابستان و نخوردن آب باعث واردن شدن فشار زیادی به کلیه ها می شود.

از اثرات جانبی روزه می توان سر درد، حالت تهوع، دردهای ماهیچه ای، افت فشار خون، احساس سرما، و افسردگی را نام برد.
در کشور اسلامی ما به خوبی می بینیم که آمار تصادفات و تخلفات رانندگی و جدالهای بی مورد در ماه رمضان بالا می رود. . بیشتر ادارت به حالت نیمه تعطیل در می آیند. در این کشور مصیبت زده کارایی کارمندان در روزهای عادی پایین است، تصور کنید که ماه رمضان که می رسد گل هست به سبزه هم آراسته می شود.

فکرش را بکنید مسلمانها به جای اینکه راه درستی برای تندرستی بیابند می گویند روزه به معده استراحت میدهد. وظیفه معده این است که مرتب کار کند. همانطور که برای قلب و مغز و کلیه استراحتی طبیعت تعیین نکرده است، لزومی ندارد سیستم گوارشی را از دیگر اعضای بدن مستثنا بدانیم.

آخوندها می گویند رساندن غبار غلیظ به حلق باعث باطل شدن روزه می شود. فرو رفتن تمام بدن در آب باعث باطل شدن روزه می شود. خوردن دارو در زمان روزه داری باعث ابطال روزه می شود. و اما خدای مسلمانها را ببین چقدر بیکار است.سعادت مرا در زجر کشیدن من تأمین می کند و چند جرعه آب برای خوردن دارو مرا از رسیدن به سعادت باز می دارد. چه خدایی است که روزه را برای سلامت ما مقرر کرده است ولی برای همان سلامت نباید قرص بخوریم. من که فکر می کنم منطق خودم از منطق خدای مسلمانها خیلی قویتر است. خیلی از آشنایان را دیده ام که پس از اتمام ماه رمضان دچار زخم معده یا دیگر بیماریهای گوارشی شده اند. اما گویی برای مسلمانان حوری نسیه به از سلامت نقد است.
منابع:

http://www.fitwise.com/Fasting_Program.asp
http://www.geocitie s.com/hammihanir ani/articles/fasting.htm ضررهای روزه

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Fasting Disadvantages
Ramadan has come through. In the country we always close the worst situation ever be. People are all angry and irritable. Some people in our office who are techy and Day Bdakhlaq and physical strength to confess themselves and Fkryshan are low and are tired much sooner than ever. Colleagues say humiliate us in front of us day Day Do not insult. I told them if you feel like eating torment us for too long and the most torturous world houri fate take more.

But what most attracted to is writing this article, is that woman on the subway to the severity of weakness fainting. No one should know to do. One face is Pashyd water, one said, have their blood sugar low Shklatsh worked, said the other day not fasting, not yet his is invalidate.

What I said to-day Foundation Day for the body is Mzrr not accepted and called the doctor on television and said the benefits of day. I never in an Islamic country do not doctor the benefits the thousands of good to mention that a physical injury to the point. Did not accept. Therefore I decided to investigate this case.

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Day-old has a few thousand years. All religions, including Christianity, Judaism, Islam and Eastern religions other day near the way to communicate with God knows. Those days are psychological claim that their power has increased.

Any doctor said Kalavy day longer likely to be infected gall bladder disease is more. The mood is good for business. Those days are what they feel is inspired revelation, or even sometimes to download claims. Kalavy doctor says it is not fun brain glucose, which comes down from the state of lunacy could be down to which person is imaginative and fantasy. I think Day of the Prophet Muhammad Daryhay Hira cause hallucinations that he was in Revelation.

The benefit of the rest of Ramadan are considered the digestive system, remove toxins and body create a good mood.
Elizabeth Sumer nutrition Mthss Loyola University said if Eat right system, your body does not need additional work. Eating a meal once a day to enter the body is shock. Fall to 50 percent glucose caused a lot of pressure to the body. Lint doctor said foodless such as effects of alcohol on the brain. 12 The day after the body start using reserves to glucose.
Mark Dmayv doctor of Medicine Loyola professor and vice director of the Center says nutrition benefits for any day I can not see. So I do not recommend it. Samer field Gil collaboration doctor says I fully oppose eating solid foods for 24 hours do not. A condition that is Nvshydh lots of water and food during the week all to reach the body.

Rakvfsky doctor says: Despite the pressure of Ramadan brings into the body with no enemy. Is good that one day a week or two per day we fish. I will clean digestive Syytm. But better is that the amount of calories to 50 percent reduction by eating plant material and this way we continue throughout life.

Paul of Venice among the doctor good reasons for the day gives the appropriate body for weight loss does not. Since that day three days more people are reported to have found that weight. Because the body into thinking that is Qht year and defend himself with slow metabolism is to keep the calories the body.

Nutrition experts believe that day is not good for young people and Msnha. Before the age of 18 to 20, the body still making bone, muscle and brain cells is. After 40 to 45 years of little to lose them. Before the maturity to make nutritional needs and adults to prevent their deterioration. Day, even for 10 to 12 hours to reduce calcium.
But nutrition experts say that some people have all-day health need not be a model to follow. Each individual body needs, according to a particular method-day needs. For example, some solid foods should eat some Frad. Or eating watery for some things under another recommend.
Lack of calories the body is very bad. Come down because the liver glucose Glycogen Rabh stored glucose into energy. Brain glucose activity requires direct. Bnabryan must defeat it, or proteins or fatty acids obtained. Because the body resistance against the failure to protein, so the body uses fatty acids into the fatty acids to carbohydrates, the primary source of energy can be provided. For this performance a lot of body water needs.

Day for many patients each Dvnv including diabetes, hepatitis, AIDS and cancer, is harmful. Those who have discomfort all day should not take. Nrsydn water body impaired renal function is more. Sweating in the summer and eating too much water causes a lot of pressure to be Vardn kidneys are.

Day of the side effects can be headache, nausea, muscle pain, blood pressure, feeling cold, depression and the range name.
Islamic countries that we see good statistics and traffic accidents and untimely Jdalhay Ramadan is high. . More Adart mode come in half-closed. In this country stricken employee performance is low in normal days, imagine that Ramadan is the flower appears to be tit green.

Fkrsh the Muslims do instead find the right way to say health day is resting stomach. Task is to sort the stomach to work. As for the heart and brain and kidney has not set break nature, no unnecessary digestive system in the body Mstsna know.

Mullahs called the throat to deliver thick dust day is void. Merge all the body's water day is void. Eating drug at the time of day fasting is the cancellation. But God Look at how Muslims are unemployed. Saadat me suffer and I will supply water to eat a sip of my medication to achieve prosperity is open. What is God for the day due to our health but the health of the tablet should not eat. I think my logic of the logic of God is stronger than many Muslims. Many families have seen the completion of the Ramadan suffered stomach ulcers or other gastrointestinal diseases have been. But as if Muslims nymph is a credit to health review.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 10:40 am    Post subject: More tragedy in Iran Reply with quote

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Subject: Re: More tragedy in Iran

Date: Tuesday, August 25, 2009, 6:01 AM

Amil,
my heart was broken and I got such a lump in my throat (and tears in my eyes) reading about the horrific torture & murder of that beautiful young woman. Of course, these goons/monsters/beasts that carry out the worse type of tortures imaginable, will one day (but never soon enough) rot in hell. But they, too, must be made to suffer - and, God willing, justice will one day (please, God, sooner rather than later!) prevail in Iran. It's just too tragic and unbelievable for words.

Earlier it was said that "this is the beginning of the end of the Mullahs," but, sadly, that does NOT appear to be the case now. They have the power and are exercising it completely. And, of course, you're so right: Just as in Germany in the 30s & 40s when much of the world knew or suspected what was happening to the Jews, Gypsies, homosexuals and others (including many, many Christians), the full horror was never known until after the War and after Germany had been beaten COMPLETELY.

But look at the UN, the USA, Europe, etc. now: About the only thing they're getting even mildly upset about vis-a-vis Iran is the nuclear weapons buildup. Hardly a PEEP about what's going on in the prisons and beyond the gaze of the Iranian public - let alone the outside world - where, as you so poignantly noted, no cell phones are there to record the rapes & the tortures.

It's like watching a train wreck in slow motion, one in which you just know many people will die and/or sustain severe injuries - but you feel, indeed, maybe are, powerless to do anything about it. What, in heaven's name, is the solution?!? IS there a solution?!?

I feel so depressed and wonder how long the Iranian people can withstand this brutality. Of course, maybe they WILL finally move from peaceful to armed resistance - but how? And with what weapons? Who will help them? Who will fight alongside of them? The USA stands silent, our President is an empty suit and a sick joke, and our military is spread thin in Iraq and Afghanistan. Israel is besieged - and almost abandoned by this administration. It's just one damn thing after another!

My heart is with the people in Iran who are suffering. No way can anyone convince me that even the Shah's "Sivak" (sp?) police were EVER this cruel and insane! Jimmy Carter certainly has the blood of many of his clueless hands...

Keep those reports & updates coming, Amil. We need to hear about them and know The Truth!

As ever,

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P.S. You may already be aware of a very vibrant blog out there, one I read at least a couple times a week: Atlas Shrugs. It's written and hosted by Pam Geller - and she pulls no punches! She's a FIERCE fighter for women's rights in a misogynist Radical Islamic world and has followed & documented countless cases of so-called (& totally misnamed) "honor" killings - particularly here, even in North American (Canada & the USA). She was a strong advocate for Neda and the cause of freedom in Iran and devoted quite a few articles & reports to that particular case. Also, she followed the blogs and Internet reports - right from the people in the streets and in hidden places on computers (as long as they were allowed & not confiscated) and reported same - often verbatim - to her readers. I think all you have to do (if you're not already connected ) is to go to www.atlasshrugs.com. Not quite sure of the website, because I subscribe and it comes to be via email on a regular (several times a week) basis.
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Edward "Ted" Kennedy served in the U.S. Senate for 47 years.


http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/08/26/ted.kennedy.legacy/
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* Edward "Ted" Kennedy had been U.S. senator from Massachusetts since 1962
* Kennedy was considered one of the most effective legislators
* A hallmark was the senator's ability to work across party lines, colleagues say


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 9:45 am    Post subject: Has President Obama Failed America For freedom, Liberty & Reply with quote

Free Iran ActivistChat wrote:

Has President Obama Failed America Stands For Freedom, Liberty, Human Rights, Detente With Islamists and Real Change For Better?

For Review and Action Request by all Freedom Loving People (Right, Left & Center): President Obama policy no longer is promoting freedom, liberty, Human Rights, Anti-Slavery and democracy around the globe which was cornerstone of America and fundamental principles for key success stories in past 60 years. Detente With Islamists and Islam is Betrayal Of Freedom and Human Rights[30][31][32] .

August 27, 2009

President JFK As a Senator in July 2, 1957 and The War Hero [29]:
"..the most powerful single force in the world today is neither communism nor capitalism,neither H-bomb nor the guided missile- it is man's eternal desire to be free and independent."



Late Senator TED KENNEDY last wish list has become reality by President Obama election for change [24]. Has president Obama delivered the expected change for better in past 8 months or so far President Obama failed and deceived his supporters and his friends like late Senator TED KENNEDY ... ?
In past 50 years of USA history President JFK [29] was the only President who tried his best to deliver the real change for better.

The greatness of America was on July 20, 1969 when Neil Armstrong stepped out of the Eagle, he climbed down a ladder toward the surface, as the world watched. The world heard him say, as he stepped on the moon’s surface: “That’s one small step for man, one giant leap for mankind.” This greatness was possible by great man of future vision President John F. Kennedy "We choose to go to the Moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard.” and great brilliant minds like scientist Wernher von Braun ....

The down fall of America was when President Obama sent letters to Khamenei on May and June 2009 [4][5][27] , despite the fact that president knew about Khamenei's 30 years of crimes against humanity( Cinema Rex Fire Incident in Abadan orchestrated by Khamenei as the chief operator and gang leader under Khomeinei's orders killed 400 innocent Iranians. [19]) .

President Obama found it convenient to ignore all advanced warnings [14] [15][16] regarding Islamofacist regime in Iran . President Obama ignored Senator McCain and Congress to support FREE Iran. Obama ignored the direct connection that Andrei Sakharov (1921-1989 the first Russian to win the Nobel Peace Prize) and a spokesman for the conscience of mankind saw between the violation of human rights and international violence. Repression at home by any regime often leads to conflict abroad. Detente with Human Rights Violators (Islamofacists and Others) in the name of National Security Interests and Peace is the Betrayal Of Freedom and is not considered as real change or reform for better ….

President Obama with 90% of African American votes was expected to become symbol of anti-slavery and rejection of Islam for its support of 1400 year history of slavery practice. The African American voters did not expect President Obama to become the first appeasers of Islamists. Instead of admiration and respect for Cyrus the Great from 2500 years ago (539 BC) who issued the 1st declaration of human rights and abolished slavery long before kings, bows to Human Rights Voilator King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia [3][4]. President should explain why? President Obama's speech in Cairo tries hard to appease Islamists and create false and peaceful image of Islam that does not match with scholarly view of Islam …The historians and scholars estimated that between 11 and 18 million Black African-Africans were enslaved by Muslim Arab slave traders and taken across the Red Sea, Indian Ocean, and Sahara desert between 650 and 1900, compared to 9.4 to 14 million Africans brought to the Americas in the Atlantic slave trade.

President Obama ignored 44 Nobel Laureates' Open Letter who urged him and the world’s political leaders to support, with all means at their disposal, the people of Iran, who deserve to have their votes counted, their voices heard, and their dignity respected. [20]

President Obama ignored the prison rape of the Iranian 15 Year old boy ordeal by Khamenei thugs and Islamists [21][27] , Taraneh Mousavi rape case covered by Rep. Thaddeus McCotte [22][23][27] and sent message for Ramdan [7] which only a very few Iranian-Americans practice. All scholars agree that Islam is incompatible with democracy and is against Human Rights ,Women Rights and Pro Slavery and president Obama tries to please small minority Islamists who if they find a chance will destroy USA and kill many American Nedas in the streets of this country …
Obama cuts off funds to Iran human rights groups approved by Clinton and Bush[36][37] at the same time Obama Admin is planing
to help making it easier for Islamists in USA to transfer Zakat money (Islamist Tax]- Watch video [33] Cairo Egypt Speech
President Obama wins 2009 Nobel Peace Prize ... [38][39] Over 30,000 Comments on Twitter regarding Obama Nobel Prize ....
White House advisor says Sharia law misunderstood .... [40]

President Obama is not leading African American into the sweet lands of love and brotherhood promised by Martin Luther King, but he is rather marching African Americans into appeasing Islam without exposing truth about Islam past history of slavery …. President Obama has failed America by not delivering real change for better, but he has failed African American even more by appeasing Islam and Islamist regime in Iran.

An old poetic Persian proverb says:

Har cheh begandad namakash mizanand.
Vaay beh roozy keh begandad namak!
English translation:
Salt is added to whatever is getting spoiled.
[to preserve against more spoilage]
Woe onto the day when salt itself is spoiled!


What to do to avoid future disaster?

Based on our experience, observation and test cases if people don’t follow James Madison[17] direction and don't protest and show their outrage then their rights will be ignored by corrupt minority lobbyists and government ….

Freedom-loving American People actions and protest for Human Rights and Protect Freedom Against Islamists and Islamist Regime's Rapist and Terror Master Of Iran might change the policy direction toward disaster ....



References wrote:

References:

[1]Abolition of slavery timeline
In 539 BC, Cyrus the Great issues the Cyrus cylinder and abolishes slavery
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abolition_of_slavery_timeline
[2] Islamic Arab slave trade
Historians estimate that between 11 and 18 million Black Africans were enslaved by Arab slave traders and taken across the Red Sea, Indian Ocean, and Sahara Desert between 650 and 1900,[5][6][7] compared to 9.4 to 14 million Africans brought to the Americas in the Atlantic slave trade.[8]
Periodic Arab raiding expeditions were sent from Islamic Iberia to ravage the Christian Iberian kingdoms, bringing back booty and slaves. In a raid against Lisbon in 1189, for example, the Almohad caliph Yaqub al-Mansur took 3,000 female and child captives, while his governor of Córdoba, in a subsequent attack upon Silves in 1191, took 3,000 Christian slaves.[9]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_slave_trade

[3] Watch Video President Obama in Deep Submission to Saudi Arabian King Abdullah
During Thursdays meeting of the G20 in London, President Barack Obama bows before King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zr6SiXRm6po

[4] Watch Video President Obama bows down to Saudi King Abdullah Video Playlist
http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=0339684E09946489

In his recent trip to London for G20 summit, President Obama was reaching out to shake the hand of King Abdullah, one of the leading men of terror in our current life. Saudi Arabia is a hub for terrorism. Seventeen terrorists out of nineteen terrorists on the 11 September 2001 attacks were from Saudi Arabia, supposedly our friend and ally. Here is the travesty, the most powerful man on earth bends over and bows deeply to Saudis King Abdullah, who is well known for his support of Wahhabi Islamism all over the world. Go figure! After All, Saudi Arabia is a place where Prophet Muhammad was born and it is where he unleashed his dogma of Islamic terrorism, the Quran.

Quran 8:12 "I shall terrorize the infidels. So wound their bodies and incapacitate them because they oppose Allah and His Apostle."

Quran 33:26 "Allah made the Jews leave their homes by terrorizing them so that you killed some and made many captive. And He made you inherit their lands, their homes, and their wealth. He gave you a country you had not traversed before."

[4] Guardian - Obama sent letter to Khamenei before the election, report says
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jun/24/khamenei-obama-letter

[5] Washington Times - Obama sent letter to Khamenei – Obama Administration overture to Khamenei ridiculed in sermon
http://washingtontimes.com/news/2009/jun/24/us-contacted-irans-ayatollah-before-election/?feat=home_cube_position1
Letter was sent between May 4 and May 10 and laid out the prospect of "cooperation in regional and bilateral relations" .

[6] Atlantic slave trade
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_slave_trade
Slavery was practiced in Africa before the beginning of the Atlantic slave trade.[11] Slavery and the slave trade were an integral part of African societies and states which supplied the Islamic Arab world with enslaved people for centuries before the arrival of the Europeans.[12] The African slave trade provided a large number of slaves to Europeans and their African agents
[7] Obama marks beginning of Muslim holy month
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090821/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_obama_ramadan_3
[8] Is this the kind of future for American Women As it Happened To Persian Women 1400 years ago?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_slave_trade
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Geromeslavemarket.jpg


The Slave Market (c. 1884), painting by Jean-Léon Gérôme.

[9] Documentary Video Clips Carter Father Of Islamic Revolution In Iran By Dr. Evans
http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=91F59DAADE96DCE7

[10] Documentary Video Clips Playlist Rape Cases In Iran Islamist Regime Prison Gift From President Carter
http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=6BC9771F2EFE4EFC

[11] Documentary Video Clips Playlist FREE Iran Riots Against Mullahs Election Circus
http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=8BD65DA9E0E59B6C

[12] Documentary Video Clips Playlist Neda The Persian Lioness Princess Of Freedom
http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=6726180C5CC691BA
[13] Documentary Video Clips Playlist Dr. Fereydoun Farokhzad Brilliant Mind Beheaded Aug 6, 1992 http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=DE7E03C784EFCE0B

[14] Decision 2008 Priorities : U.S. Foreign and Energy Policy General Common Sense Expectations and Demands
http://activistchat.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=32800#32800

[15] Documentary Video Clips Playlist Free Iran ActivistChat Response to 2009 Obama's Iranian Noruz Message
http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=A321FCD63E1A28DB

[16] Mr. President, please stop the policy of tolerance and negotiation with the Islamic Republic regime. [Saied Shemirani]

[17] James Madison:

"If men were angels, no government would be necessary. If angels were to govern men, neither external nor internal controls on government would be necessary. In framing a government which is to be administered by men! Over men, the great difficulty lies in this: you must first enable the government to control the governed; and in the next place oblige it to control itself. A dependence on the people is, no doubt, the primary control on the government; but experience has taught mankind the necessity of auxiliary precautions.” The Federalist No. 51 (James Madison).
[18] Andrei Sakharov (1921-1989)
Source: http://www.aip.org/history/sakharov/

Andrei Sakharov (1921-1989) was a Soviet physicist who became, in the words of the Nobel Peace Committee, a spokesman for the conscience of mankind. He was fascinated by fundamental physics and cosmology, but he had to spent two decades designing nuclear weapons. The acknowledged father of the Soviet hydrogen bomb, he contributed perhaps more than anyone else to the military might of the USSR. But it was his top secret experience as a leading nuclear expert that was instrumental in making Sakharov one of the most courageous critics of the Soviet regime, a human rights activist and the first Russian to win the Nobel Peace Prize. He helped bring down one of history’s most powerful dictatorships. This exhibit tells about Sakharov’s extraordinary life.
[19] 1978 Islamist Holy Crime - Cinema Rex Abadan Fire 400 killed By Khamenei As Gang Leader http://www.activistchat.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=3309&sid=61829d58a370d995dcc2b89db2ec2a31
[20] Petition 82: Response To 44 Nobel Laureates Open Letter Regarding Brave Men and Women of Iran http://activistchat.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=33538#33538
[21] Iranian boy who defied Tehran hardliners tells of prison rape ordeal [The Times]
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article6805885.ece
[22] Breaking News Taraneh's Rapist & Killer Identified: Mullah Hosein Taeb حسین طائب
http://activistchat.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=33581#33581
[23] Rep. Thaddeus McCotte on Taraneh Mousavi Iran's Khamenei: Your Referendum Has Been Held and You Have Failed Your Test
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7q77WkgTG_c
[24] Senator TED KENNEDY: Historic Speech @ Denver Convention
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IDN4b58pTU

[25] Walking the walk Tough, realistic critique of Obama needed
Source: washingtontimes.com
After President Obama's first seven months in office, concerns are growing about his administration's uncertain foreign-policy start
http://washingtontimes.com/news/2009/sep/01/walking-the-walk/

[26] Obama's Foreign Policy: Abandon Democracy
There has been a fundamental change in American foreign policy under President Obama-- a change that until now, has been little recognized.
No longer is the promotion of freedom, liberty, and democracy around the world one of our fundamental principles.
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2009/09/01/doug-schoen-obama-democracy/
[27] Iranian boy who defied Tehran hardliners tells of prison rape ordeal
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article6805885.ece


[28] Obama sent second letter to Khamenei
By Barbara Slavin and Iason Athanasiadis, THE WASHINGTON TIMES
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/sep/03/obama-sent-second-letter-to-irans-khamenei/

[29] The History Place - JFK The War Hero
http://www.historyplace.com/kennedy/warhero.htm

[30]Dr. Arash Irandoost Reported: Ayatollah Mesbah-Yazdi: Sodomy and Rape OK for Protesters[/color][/b]
http://hakemiat-e-mardom.blogspot.com/2009/08/ayatollah-mesbah-yazdi-sodomy-and-rape.html

[31] Islam is Fire By Amil Imani
http://www.amilimani.com/

[32] Rejecting Any Kind of Talks with Islamofascist
http://activistchat.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=7899

[33] President Obama on Zakat - Cairo Egypt Speech
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQG8PIqLp7k

[34] Wahhabism & Islam in The U.S. - 4000-6,000 mosques overall, including small and diverse congregations of many kinds operating in USA soil
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=ODgwMGNkNzM0MTNiMWMyZGM3ZWJlYTYxYzczNGNhMmU=

[35] اوباما چه می کند؟!
شهباز نخعی
http://www.facebook.com/note.php?created&&suggest&note_id=131981159686

[36] US funds dry up for Iran rights watchdog
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2009/10/06/us_cutoff_of_funding_to_iran_human_rights_cause_signals_shift/?page=2

[37] Obama cuts off funds to Iran human rights groups
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2009/10/obama_cuts_off_funds_to_iran_h.html#

[38] President Obama wins Nobel Peace Prize By Rick Moran
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2009/10/president_obama_wins_nobel_pea.html

[39] Our Laureate: Neda of Iran .. President Obama wins the Nobel Prize for Peace ... by washingtonpost.com
Source: www.washingtonpost.com
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/10/09/AR2009100903860.html?
[40] White House advisor says Sharia law misunderstood .... By Thomas Lifson http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2009/10/white_house_advisor_says_shari.html
[41] Video of Barack Obama attacks religion ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_zssjFzpGs

[42] Wall Street: Does Obama Believe in Human Rights? Human rights "interfere" with President Obama's campaign against climate change.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704500604574481341183751038.html?mod=wsj_share_facebook
[43] Barack Obama sees worst poll rating drop in 50 years http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/barackobama/6409721/Barack-Obama-sees-worst-poll-rating-drop-in-50-years.html

[44] Remarks by the President at the Acceptance of the Nobel Peace Prize and Reactions http://activistchat.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=33710#33710




Los Angeles Times wrote:
President Obama's job approval rating falls very fast

http://news.google.com/news/more?um=1&ned=us&cf=all&ncl=dGJSZE527RlJa7MqHC8JmHJwuq39M


Dr. Arash Irandoost Email Post wrote:


Ayatollah Mesbah-Yazdi: Sodomy and Rape OK for Protesters

http://hakemiat-e-mardom.blogspot.com/2009/08/ayatollah-mesbah-yazdi-sodomy-and-rape.html

On August 11, 2009, Ayatollah Mesbh-Yazdi and Mahmood Ahmadinejad had a gathering at Jamkaran. They answered questions posed by their supporters. The following questions and answers were exchanged between Ayatollah Mesbah-Yazdi and some of his supports regarding the recent charges of rape and torture committed on those arrested in the post-election unrest:

تعدادی از پاسخ های شرعی مصباح در زمینه تجاوز جنسی در زیر به برخی از
سوالها و جوابها اشاره میشود

*****************
Q: Is obtaining confession by applying psychological, emotional and physical pressure valid and considered credible according to Islam?
1- آیا اعتراف گیری تحت فشار و شکنجه روحی و روانی و جسمی اعتبار اسلامی دارد ؟

A: Getting confession from any person who is against the Velayet-e-faghih (supreme leader) is permissible under any condition
.ج - اعتراف گیری از ضد ولایت فقیه به هر شکلی جایز است


*****************
Q: Is obtaining confession by drugging the prisoner with addictive substances, opiates, and other drugs?
2 - اعتراف گیری با استفاده از مواد مخدر و افیون و داروهای کدوئینه جایز است ؟

A: Obtaining confession from any person who is against the Velayet-e-Faghih (supreme leader) is allowed under any condition
.ج - اعتراف گیری از ضد ولایت مطلقه به هر شکلی جایز است .


*****************
Q: Can interrogator rape the prisoner in order to obtain confession?
3 - آیا بازجو میتواند به زندانی تجاوز جنسی کند تا اعتراف بگیرد ؟

A: The necessary caution is for the interrogator to perform the ‘Vozoo’ (ablution: the act of cleansing mandated by Islam before praying) first and say prayers while raping the prisoner.If the prisoner is female, it is OK to rape through vagina or anus. It is better not to have a witness present. If it is a male prisoner, then it’s OK for someone else to watch while the rape is committed
.ج - احتیاط واجب آن است که قبل از اینکار حتما وضو بگیرد و هنگام عمل ذکر گوید .اگرزندانی زن است هم از فرج و هم از دوبر دخول اشکال ندارد بهتر است در محل بازجویی کس دیگری نباشد . اما اگر زندانی مرد است احوط است در حضور دیگر باز جویان دخول صورت گیرد

*****************
Q: What if the female prisoner gets pregnant? Is the child considered illegitimate?
4 - اگر زن زندانی حامله شود تکلیف چیست ؟ یا آن فرزند حرامزاده است ؟

A: The child borne to any woman [weakling] who is against the supreme leader is considered illegitimate be it a result of rape by her interrogator or thorough intercourse by husband, according to the written word in the Quarn. However, if the child is raised by the jailer, then the child is considered a legitimate Shii’a Muslim
.ج - فرزند ضعیفه ضد ولایت مطلقه فقیه مطابق نص قران مجید در هر صورت حرامزاده است چه توسط بازجو باردار شود چه توسط شوهرش . اما اگر بازجو فرزندی طفل متولد شده را گردن نهد ، بنابر احتیاط واجب طفل حلالزاده و شیعه اثنی عشری است .

*****************
Q: Is raping of men and young boys considered sodomy?
5- آیا تجاوز جنسی در زندان به مردها و پسران جوان لواط محسوب نمی شود ؟

A: No, because it is not consensual. Of course, if the prisoner is aroused and enjoys the rape, then caution must be taken not to repeat the rape
.ج - خیر . چون زندانی بدون میل و رغبت به آن تن داده است . البته اگر جوان مفعول را خوشامده باشد احتیاط مستحب آن است که دیگر این عمل تکرار نگردد

*****************
Q: What is the judgment for raping a virgin female prisoner?

6 - تجاوز به دختران باکره در زندان چه حکمی دارد ؟

A: If the judgment for the prisoner is execution, then the rape before execution brings the interrogator a spiritual reward equivalent to making the Haaj pilgrimage [Mecca], but if there is no execution decreed, then the reward would be equivalent of making a pilgrimage to Karbala .به همان اندازه بر گناهان دختر افزوده میشود . اما اگر زندانی قرار نیست اعدام شود ، به اندازه زیارت کربلا برای بازجو صواب دارد

In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act! --George Orwell


latimes wrote:
Source:
IRAN: Report of second letter from Obama to Tehran

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/babylonbeyond/2009/09/iran-report-of-secret-letter-from-obama-to-tehran.html

http://twitpic.com/g7jsx - LaTimes report http://bit.ly/dvhta



Free Iran ActivistChat Expectations wrote:


Free Iran ActivistChat Decision 2008 Expectations Priorities : U.S. Foreign and Energy Policy General Common Sense Expectations and Demands

Wed Nov 05, 2008

We are the citizens of the United States of America who represent the majority of the American people who strongly adhere to the following beliefs:

1) We believe in the concept of complete secularism in government, which generally means complete separation of the State from religion, or any ideology or philosophy which can be interpreted as religious (e. g. Buddhism, Christianity, Hinduism, Islamism, Judaism, etc., or extreme ideologies such as Fascism or Communism). Secularism can be considered as common sense versus Ideology.

2) Democracy without secularism and secular parties cannot survive and continue a tradition of freedom of choice when a non-secular regime comes to power, as demonstrated by the Nazi party in Germany, the Khomeinist regime in Iran, and more recently by the Hamas Party in Palestine. This principle has been proven historically many times and in many countries.

3) When there is religious intervention in the affairs of the public and the State, then it become necessary to make public the fact that a religion or its precepts have influenced governmental institutions. It becomes a duty of citizens, in the interests of freedom, to work to remove that religious influence, and restore secular governance.




We believe that, in this century, real change starts with breakthroughs in less expensive and environmentally less-harmful energy sources such as hydrogen fuels, solar power, wind power, and geo-thermal energy, representing possibly safer alternatives to fossil fuels. The greatest changes for the better will be delivered by the world’s brilliant engineering minds, not politicians (Democrats or Republicans) who, for the past 40 years, have virtually ignored support for research in alternative sources of energy.


We recommend that support for qualified candidates for public office be based on past good deeds and public service, independent of political party affiliation or pre-assigned tags of left, center, right, liberal or conservative.

Our future expectations of policy makers and leaders with regard to foreign policy are defined by a new set of criteria based on test cases designed to be able to measure success and failure more objectively. Our recommended test cases and criteria are based on the vision of the founding fathers of the United States of America and those philosophies that informed them, including the works of Cyrus the Great, and Plato. We believe that this ancient and enduring spirit of freedom was embodied in the U.S. Constitution, and includes the following elements:

1- The implementation of a secular democracy
2- The implementation of enduring and inalienable Human/Women’s Rights
3- The implementation of a Free and Responsible Society
4- The promulgation of freedom and human rights at global level
5- The intent to gather moral and international support for the rejection of all religiously-based, gender-biased, racially-biased or apartheid, and ideologically extreme governments, realizing that these governments are a main source of creating fearful societies and terrorism in the world.


Independently of who is chosen for public office in the elections of 2008, we resolve to remain vigilant, and to continue to pressure elected officials to move in the aforementioned directions, to help assure a better future for all freedom-loving, secularist peoples. We will continue to make use of any communication media available to us in order to further this cause. The struggle toward a better future will not end with any one election, and we will always remember that only Truth, Honesty, and Integrity have survived, and will survive, the test of time and history.



Quick Overview of the Vision of Cyrus the Great:
Cyrus the Great, the father of first Human Rights declaration over 2500 years ago, advocated the abolition of slavery and ethnic or racial discrimination, freedom to choose one's place of residence, freedom of religious belief, and the establishment of peace among nations. Such ideas are still alive and are clearly esteemed by all those who believe in human dignity and human rights. The Persians regarded Cyrus The Great as The Father, the Babylonians regarded him as The Liberator, the Greeks called him the Law-Giver, and the Jews called him the Anointed of the Lord. Prof. Richard Frye of Harvard University is quoted as saying, “…Surely the concept of One World, and the fusion of peoples and cultures in one 'Oecumen', was one of [Cyrus the Great’s] important legacies”. Therefore, Cyrus the Great is considered to be one of the greatest political leaders and liberators of all time. October 29th has been designated as the international day of Cyrus the Great, king of Persia , who declared the first charter of human rights in the world, which is also known as the ‘Cyrus Cylinder’.

The Vision of the American Founding Fathers:
The founding fathers -- George Washington, Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Jefferson, Alexander Hamilton, James Madison, John Adams -- are extraordinarily impressive revolutionary figures, with unique educational influences. Recent research by historians has found that Cyrus The Great’s Book by Xenophon, and ‘The Prince’ by Machiavelli, were required reading among the American Revolutionary Founding Fathers. Personal copies of these books owned by Founding Fathers exist in Library of Congress. The drafting of the Declaration of Independence and U.S. Constitution was, however, more influenced by Cyrus The Great’s leadership and vision than Machiavelli. Cyrus The Great’s leadership vision is based on the ideas of a free society, human rights, sound moral values and a high code of ethics, versus the Machiavellian vision based on a fearful society, with perhaps immoral and unethical means advocated in order to control society. The American Founding Fathers were not essentially Machiavellian, and that is why they were able to create a great foundation upon which to build a nation.



We should try to find an answer to the following question: How could the founding fathers have achieved so much in such a short period of time, while current generations seemingly cannot achieve nearly as much, although endowed with far superior technological power and knowledge?

To safeguard our freedoms, we always remember James Madison’s famous statement: "If men were angels, no government would be necessary. If angels were to govern men, neither external nor internal controls on government would be necessary. In framing a government which is to be administered by men over men, the great difficulty lies in this: you must first enable the government to control the governed; and in the next place oblige it to control itself [italics ours]. A dependence on the people is, no doubt, the primary control on the government; but experience has taught mankind the necessity of auxiliary precautions.” The Federalist No. 51 (James Madison).


FREE Iran ActivistChat Community wrote:


Petition 82: Response To 44 Nobel Laureates Open Letter Regarding Brave Men and Women of Iran By FREE Iran ActivistChat Community

Sign the Petition -
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 11:15 pm    Post subject: A Weak American President - Behold Obama on Iran. Reply with quote

Anne Bayefsky wrote:
A Weak American President - Behold Obama on Iran.
Anne Bayefsky, 06.23.09, 07:38 PM EDT

http://www.forbes.com/2009/06/23/obama-iran-press-conference-elections-opinions-contributors-bayefsky.html

Quote:

Obama: Neda video ‘heartbreaking’
http://rawstory.com/rawreplay/?p=3628


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 1:47 pm    Post subject: A Call to New Resolve Reply with quote

Amil Imani wrote:

Amil Imani
A Call to New Resolve
August 29, 2009


Unlike anything encountered in recent memory, the formidably complex and unique situation present in today’s Iran poses an enormous challenge. It defies any conventional solution, and simply resorting to civil disobedience is the equivalent of fighting off a pack of hungry and blood-thirsty wolves with tooth-picks! The incredibly ruthless, deceptive, and cunning nature of the present regime, bundled together with an Islamic modus operandi, creates an enigma and a number of paradoxes.



http://www.newmediajournal.us/staff/imani/2009/08292009.htm
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 3:42 pm    Post subject: Ayatollah Mesbah-Yazdi: Sodomy and Rape OK for Protesters Reply with quote

Dr. Arash Irandoost Email Post wrote:


Ayatollah Mesbah-Yazdi: Sodomy and Rape In Islam OK for Protesters


On August 11, 2009, Ayatollah Mesbh-Yazdi and Mahmood Ahmadinejad had a gathering at Jamkaran. They answered questions posed by their supporters. The following questions and answers were exchanged between Ayatollah Mesbah-Yazdi and some of his supports regarding the recent charges of rape and torture committed on those arrested in the post-election unrest:

تعدادی از پاسخ های شرعی مصباح در زمینه تجاوز جنسی در زیر به برخی از
سوالها و جوابها اشاره میشود

*****************
Q: Is obtaining confession by applying psychological, emotional and physical pressure valid and considered credible according to Islam?
1- آیا اعتراف گیری تحت فشار و شکنجه روحی و روانی و جسمی اعتبار اسلامی دارد ؟

A: Getting confession from any person who is against the Velayet-e-faghih (supreme leader) is permissible under any condition
.ج - اعتراف گیری از ضد ولایت فقیه به هر شکلی جایز است


*****************
Q: Is obtaining confession by drugging the prisoner with addictive substances, opiates, and other drugs?
2 - اعتراف گیری با استفاده از مواد مخدر و افیون و داروهای کدوئینه جایز است ؟

A: Obtaining confession from any person who is against the Velayet-e-Faghih (supreme leader) is allowed under any condition
.ج - اعتراف گیری از ضد ولایت مطلقه به هر شکلی جایز است .


*****************
Q: Can interrogator rape the prisoner in order to obtain confession?
3 - آیا بازجو میتواند به زندانی تجاوز جنسی کند تا اعتراف بگیرد ؟

A: The necessary caution is for the interrogator to perform the ‘Vozoo’ (ablution: the act of cleansing mandated by Islam before praying) first and say prayers while raping the prisoner.If the prisoner is female, it is OK to rape through vagina or anus. It is better not to have a witness present. If it is a male prisoner, then it’s OK for someone else to watch while the rape is committed
.ج - احتیاط واجب آن است که قبل از اینکار حتما وضو بگیرد و هنگام عمل ذکر گوید .اگرزندانی زن است هم از فرج و هم از دوبر دخول اشکال ندارد بهتر است در محل بازجویی کس دیگری نباشد . اما اگر زندانی مرد است احوط است در حضور دیگر باز جویان دخول صورت گیرد

*****************
Q: What if the female prisoner gets pregnant? Is the child considered illegitimate?
4 - اگر زن زندانی حامله شود تکلیف چیست ؟ یا آن فرزند حرامزاده است ؟

A: The child borne to any woman [weakling] who is against the supreme leader is considered illegitimate be it a result of rape by her interrogator or thorough intercourse by husband, according to the written word in the Quarn. However, if the child is raised by the jailer, then the child is considered a legitimate Shii’a Muslim
.ج - فرزند ضعیفه ضد ولایت مطلقه فقیه مطابق نص قران مجید در هر صورت حرامزاده است چه توسط بازجو باردار شود چه توسط شوهرش . اما اگر بازجو فرزندی طفل متولد شده را گردن نهد ، بنابر احتیاط واجب طفل حلالزاده و شیعه اثنی عشری است .

*****************
Q: Is raping of men and young boys considered sodomy?
5- آیا تجاوز جنسی در زندان به مردها و پسران جوان لواط محسوب نمی شود ؟

A: No, because it is not consensual. Of course, if the prisoner is aroused and enjoys the rape, then caution must be taken not to repeat the rape
.ج - خیر . چون زندانی بدون میل و رغبت به آن تن داده است . البته اگر جوان مفعول را خوشامده باشد احتیاط مستحب آن است که دیگر این عمل تکرار نگردد

*****************
Q: What is the judgment for raping a virgin female prisoner?

6 - تجاوز به دختران باکره در زندان چه حکمی دارد ؟

A: If the judgment for the prisoner is execution, then the rape before execution brings the interrogator a spiritual reward equivalent to making the Haaj pilgrimage [Mecca], but if there is no execution decreed, then the reward would be equivalent of making a pilgrimage to Karbala .به همان اندازه بر گناهان دختر افزوده میشود . اما اگر زندانی قرار نیست اعدام شود ، به اندازه زیارت کربلا برای بازجو صواب دارد

In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act! --George Orwell
“Man’s capacity for justice makes democracy possible, but man’s inclination to injustice makes democracy necessary.” -- Reinhold Niebuhr, Theologian (1892-1971)

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 10:14 am    Post subject: Bahram moshiri - fatvaye ebahe va majaraye tajavoz be arghav Reply with quote

Must Watch Iranian Physician daughter Arghavan ارغوان شکرابی Raped In Front Of His Brother and Killed His Brother While Raping His Sister ... (English Subtitle) this is reported by Iranian Scholar Bahram Moshiri http://bit.ly/j9bhv

Iranian Scholar Bahram Moshiri wrote:

Watch Video: Story of raped girl Arghavan and Rape Fatwa Ebahe (Engl. Subtitle)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lw69szCRR4Q

Story of raped girl Arghavan Shokrabi and Rape FatwaEbahe (Engl. Subtitle)
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Story of Arghavan, an Iranian Girl raped by Islamic Republic thugs (Engl. Subtitle)
In this film Mr. Moshiri talk about Rape Fatwa (decree) Ebahe and the story of killing Zahed Shokrabi and rape of his sister Arghavan Shokrabi


Iranian Scholar Bahram Moshiri wrote:
Iranian Scholar Bahram Moshiri - fatvaye ebahe va majaraye tajavoz be arghavan

ماجرای تجاوز به ارغوان شکرابی در 30 تیر 88 و حکم تجاوز به زندانی ها در اسلام


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94olHLWDEoE


Recommend to State Dept. Officials to translate this video content and send one copy for Sec. Clinton and another for president Obama to learn about real peaceful Islam ..... These crimes against humanity, many rape cases, human rights violations in Iran happened when they are sitting at top positions in USA .... This is the result of President Obama & Clinton policy ignoring the promotion of freedom, liberty, Human Rights, Anti-Slavery and democracy around the world which were USA fundamental principles in past 200 years ....


Quote:

Thursday, August 27, 2009
ماجرای تجاوز به ارغوان شکرابی در 30 تیر 88
جنايت وحشتناك مزدوران ج.ا در زندان اصفهان ـ تجاوز به دختري بنام ارغوان و قتل برادرش زاهد جلوي وي
تجاوز و قتل وحشتناك خواهر و برادر بهايي در زندان اصفهان توسط مزدوران جمهوري اسلامي
وبلاگ به سوي ازادي نقل از استاد بهرام مشيري
ارغوان دختر 18 ساله و برادرش زاهد 20 ساله فرزندان دكتر محمود شكرابي در 30 تيرماه در روز اعتراضات شهر اصفهان در حالي كه قصد رفتن به خانه مادر بزرگ مريضشان را داشتند توسط مزدوران جمهوري اسلامي دستگير مي شوند
در حال شكنجه برادر از دختر ميخواهند لخت شود دختر براي نجات برادر لخت ميشود برادر از هوش ميرود دختر بينوا را مورد تجاوز وحشيانه قرار ميدهند برادر به هوش ميايد شروع به فرياد و ضجه ميكند در جلوي خواهر برادر را ميكشند دختر بينوا رواني چهار دست و پا راه ميرود پير, ديوانه, صداي حيوانات نشان ميدهد و در استانه مرگ ميباشد
مزدوران و متجاوزان بنام مسلم و غيبي مي باشند
دكتر شكرابي در ابتداي انقلاب و توطيه استعمار نوين ساليان زيادي به جرم بهايي بودن در زندان شيراز بوده و پس از ازادي به اصفهان مهاجرت مي كند و از پزشكان خير و خوشنام اصفهان مي باشد



Google Auto Translation: Persian » English

Judas Shekarabi rape incident in Persian date 30 Tir 88
A terrible crime mercenaries. Or in Isfahan prison rape and murder of his brother Judas daughter in front of his pious
Terrible rape and murder of sisters and brothers Baha'i Esfahan prison by the Islamic Republic of mercenaries
Freedom blog unto quoted Professor Bahram Moshiri
Judas 18-year-old daughter and 20-year-old children pious brother Dr. Mahmoud Shekarabi the July 30 protests a day in Isfahan while going home to grandmother had Mryzshan by mercenaries are arrested in the Islamic Republic of
Brother torture in the girls want to be naked girl is naked save his brother's brother goes intelligence to destitute girls raped brutal put brother comes to intelligence will start to cry and wail in front of brother sister girl kill destitute mental fours goes way old, insane, animal shows and the sound of death is on the threshold
Mercenaries and aggressors are called occult granted
Dr. Shekarabi the beginning of the new colonial revolution and conspiracy charges being Baha'i many years in prison in Shiraz and Isfahan, the freedom to migrate and Isfahan and reputable doctors are no


26 Video Clips Playlist Rape Cases In Iran Islamist Peaceful Prison

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latimes wrote:
Source:
IRAN: Report of second letter from Obama to Tehran

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/babylonbeyond/2009/09/iran-report-of-secret-letter-from-obama-to-tehran.html

http://twitpic.com/g7jsx - LaTimes report http://bit.ly/dvhta

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