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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 12:47 am    Post subject: The Truth Behind Spiegel’s Article By Cyrus Kar Reply with quote

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The Truth Behind Spiegel’s Article By Cyrus Kar


In two recent articles, titled “UN Treasure Honors Persian Despot” and “Cyrus cylinder's ancient bill of rights ‘is just propaganda’,” Germany’s ‘Spiegel’ and U.K.’s ‘Telegraph’ magazines criticize the United Nations for recognizing an ancient artifact believed by many to be the world’s first declaration of human rights. The “Persian Despot” of course is Cyrus The Great, the author of the doctrine inscribed on the outer surface of a clay cylinder housed at the British Museum in London where it is simply known as the “Cyrus Cylinder.”

When this cylinder was discovered in 1879, amid the ruins of Babylon, it made huge headlines in the Christian West. It was the first time a biblical story had been confirmed through archaeology. But the euphoria didn’t last long. The West was at the height of its democratic age and had no room for a celebrated monarch.

Before the age of democracy, most of the world had been ruled by monarchs. Since good monarchs were few and far between, Cyrus came to symbolize everything a good king should be, through two of the West’s most popular books: The Old Testament and, in more intellectual circles, the Cyropaedia, which literally means the Education of Cyrus, written by the 4th century BCE Greek author Xenophon.

But at the height of democratic fervor, in the mid 19th century, Xenophon was virtually blacklisted, fewer people were reading the Bible and Herodotus, the 5th century BCE Greek writer, who pits Persia’s monarchy against Greece’s democracy, was suddenly hailed as the “Father of History.”

By 1960, Herodotus’ 300 Spartans had replaced Cyrus as champions of western polity transforming Persia from hero to villain virtually overnight. A century later, an earnest search for the truth is a noble and worthy cause. But there’s little truth to be found in Spiegel’s article. The sheer number of mistakes, assumptions and half truths leave one wondering whether any attempt at objective reporting had been made.

The crux of Spiegel’s article boils down to the following argument: Since Cyrus was “no humanist” ergo “The notion that Cyrus introduced concepts of human rights is nonsense.”

If this premise holds true, then the French ‘Declaration of the Rights of Man and Citizen,’ which is recognized as one of the great human-rights doctrines, should also be considered “nonsense” since few would describe 1789 French Revolutionaries as “humanists.”

But then again, this article is not about France. It is about ancient Persia, or today’s Iran, a country left without a steward to protect its history from the likes of Spiegel – a state of affairs not entirely lost on its author. Citing the Ayatollah Khomeini as an authority on human rights, the article quotes him as saying, “The crimes committed by Iranian kings have blackened the pages of history books.”

Falsehoods

According to the article, Cyrus blackened the pages of history by starting “a 30-year war that consumed the Orient and forced millions to pay heavy taxes. Anyone who refused stood to have his nose and ears cut off. Those sentenced to death were buried up to their heads in sand, left to be finished off by the sun.”

It may come as a shock to people who have come to trust reputable news organizations like Spiegel to learn that not a single word in this statement is true. We know it’s not true because there are only a finite number of sources to draw from. In fact, all of our data on Cyrus The Great come from two primary sources, the Cyrus Cylinder and the Nabonidus Chronicle and four secondary, less reliable sources including the Old Testament and three classical Greek authors namely Herodotus, Xenophon and Ctesias.

Not one of these sources mentions anything about Cyrus cutting off someone’s nose or ears, nor do they mention him burying anyone up to their heads in sand. But how could Spiegel have gotten it so wrong?

The German magazine saw fit to stake its reputation on the findings of Mr. Matthias Schulz. Mr. Schulz’s lack of knowledge on the subject is immediately apparent when he describes how Cyrus died. “A spear punctured his thigh,” he claims, and Cyrus “died three days later.” Anyone writing an article for Spiegel should know that it was Cambyses - not Cyrus - who is described by Herodotus as having died of a leg injury:

“as he (Cambyses) was springing into the saddle, the cap fell off the sheath of his sword, exposing the blade, which pierced his thigh . . . Shortly afterwards gangrene and mortification of the thigh set in, and Cambyses died”
(Herodotus 3:64-66)

Equally reckless is Mr. Schulz’s allegation that Cyrus “was responsible for a 30-year war.” According to both primary and secondary sources, Cyrus was not responsible for any war except Babylon which lasted 19 days, not 30 years. The Nabonidus Chronicle emphatically states that his first war was instigated by the Median king, Astyages:

“Astyages mustered his army and marched against Cyrus, king of Anshan, for conquest.”
(Nabonidus Chronicle Column II: Line 1)

His second war was started by the Lydian king, Croesus, who, according to Herodotus, wanted to punish Cyrus for defeating Astyages.

“Croesus had a craving to extend his territories, but there were two other reasons for his attack on Cappadocia: namely his trust in the oracle and his desire to punish Cyrus.”
(Herodotus 1:73)

Half Truths

Mr. Schulz seems to add his own biased spin to otherwise benign words such as “heavy taxes.” Yes, like all governments, Cyrus collected taxes from his citizens. But were they “heavy?” Perhaps it’s safe to say that all taxes are “heavy” in the eyes of those who have to pay them. But even Cyrus’s taxation was revolutionary. Before Cyrus, taxes were little more than extortion money. You paid the government not to kill you or enslave you. But for the first time in imperial history, Cyrus’s subjects got representation for their taxation such as security, a postal system and roads that according to Dr. David Stronach were once described as being so safe from bandits “that a virgin could move from one end of the empire to the other with a pot of gold on her head and never be touched.”

The Persian empire also provided its citizens with a justice system so impartial that the Old Testament describes it as follows:

“the law[s] of the Medes and Persians, . . . altereth not.”
(Daniel 6:Cool

Some of Mr. Schulz’s charges sound almost desperate. One of his “experts” complains that Cyrus, “demanded that his subjects kiss his feet.” This is yet another half truth. Yes, there is evidence that Cyrus’s subjects kissed his feet, but there is no evidence that he “demanded” anyone to do so. In fact, Xenophon describes one of Cyrus’s Generals, Tigranes, as choosing not to kiss his hands, let alone his feet.

Contradictions

In some cases, Mr. Schulz seems to allege the exact opposite of what the sources tell us. For example, in his cylinder, Cyrus tells us:

[24] while my extensive troops marched peacefully through Babylon. In the whole land of Sumer and Akkad I did not allow any troublemaker to arise. [25] His city of Babylon and all his cult-centres I maintained in prosperity.
(Cyrus Cylinder: Line 24-25)

But Mr. Schulz, in his infinite wisdom, claims that Cyrus’s “army ransacked residential neighborhoods and holy sites.”

By the same token, Cyrus tells us:

“I gathered all their former inhabitants and returned them to their houses.”
(Cyrus Cylinder: Line 32)

Mr. Schultz, on the other hand, accuses Cyrus of “deporting” urban elites. The falsehoods in this article are so numerous that citing the evidence seems futile. But then, Mr. Schulz isn’t really interested in the facts. He and his motley crew of “experts” have dismissed all these sources as “propaganda.” So what is the basis for his theory? The answer lies in a single verse of the Nabonidus Chronicle.

Cyrus’s King-Arthur-like image was shattered in 1965 when a post-graduate student by the name of A.K. Grayson retranslated the Nabonidus Chronicle for his doctoral thesis. His interpretation revealed a bloody massacre by Cyrus of the entire civilian population at the city of Opis (near today's Baghdad). The following passage is what cynics like Mr. Schultz and his experts have zeroed in on for the last 40+ years:

“In the month of Tishri when Cyrus(II) did battle at Opis on the [bank of] the Tigris against the army of Akkad, the people of Akkad retreated. He carried off the plunder (and) slaughtered the people.”

The naysayers finally had their red meat. The Herodotian East/West divide was secure. But unbeknownst to Mr. Schulz, this passage was corrected last year by none other than A. K. Grayson’s former professor, W. G. Lambert himself and published in the 2007 issue of the French journal N.A.B.U.. The amended translation reads as follows:

In Tishri, when Cyrus did battle with the army of Akkad at Opis, on the [bank] of the Tigris, the soldiers of Akkad withdrew. He (Cyrus) took plunder and defeated the soldiers (of Akkad).

Cyrus did not “slaughter the people,” he “defeated the soldiers.” Two words can change history, which is why it’s so incumbent on Spiegel to get the facts straight before setting out to revise it. This revelation reduces Mr. Schulz’s article to little more than speculation and conjecture.

Mr. Schulz may see himself as an iconoclast out to “debunk” a long-standing tradition. But it is, in fact, Mr. Schultz’s position that is cliché. Persia’s role as an evil villain has become such an integral part of Western folklore that only a handful of books such as Gore Vidal’s ‘Creation’ have dared challenge the Herodotian convention in the West.

Pax Persica

The United Nations, which does not share Mr. Schulz’s Western bias, is the main target of his wrath. He mocks the UN for not sharing his anti-Persian bias, when he writes, “Suddenly even the UN secretary-general was insisting that Cyrus wanted peace, and that the Persian king had shown the wisdom to respect other civilizations.”

Actually yes; the U.N. got it right. The quest for peace was a well-known policy of the Persian empire. Revolts disrupted commerce, and disrupted commerce meant disrupted taxes. So to avoid revolts, Persian kings granted their subjects certain God-given rights in order to maintain peace throughout the empire. Had Mr. Schulz done the slightest bit of research, he would have found that there is even a name for this policy. It’s called “Pax Persica” and it is described by Dr. Maria Brosius as follows:

“The politics of the Achaemenid (Persian) Empire is referred to as the politics of Pax Persica, which means the Persian Peace, and what the Persian kings propagated was the idea of an empire at peace and the way that they tried to achieve that was through tolerance of other people’s cultures, religion, languages and administration.”
(Dr. Maria Brosius, University of New Castle)

Whether such tolerance was intended to prevent revolts or whether it was part of their Zoroastrian culture is a matter of debate. But there is no debate over whether such freedoms existed. These rights were first laid out by Persia’s patriarch, Cyrus The Great, and the clay cylinder, which Mr. Schulz calls “a hoax,” is a rare snapshot of Cyrus bestowing these very rights on the people of Babylon after conquering it in 539 BCE.

The cylinder is groundbreaking in many ways. It records the first instance of a conqueror paying homage to the foreign God of his conquered subjects. It orders all idol statues, which had been confiscated by previous Babylonian kings, returned to their “rightful abodes.” But the act that would immortalize Cyrus forever is captured in lines 25 and 26:

“The [. . .] people of Babylon, who, against the will of the gods [...] (had suffered) a yoke unsuitable for them [through that man (Nabonidus)], [26] I offered relief from their exhaustion and ended their servitude.”
(Cyrus Cylinder: Line 25-26)

Among those who were relieved from their exhaustion and servitude were over 100,000 Jews who chronicled the events which led to their captivity in the Old Testament. They describe a horrifying scene of destruction, murder and torture carried out by the infamous Babylonian king, Nebuchadnezzar, on the Jewish people and their capital city, Jerusalem.

“Nebuchadnezzar took those (Jews) who weren’t executed to Babylon to be slaves for him and his sons. They remained captives until the Persian empire began to rule . . . The lord moved the heart of Cyrus, king of Persia to make a proclamation throughout his realm and to put in writing. . . . This is what King Cyrus of Persia says: . . . May the Lord be with all of you who are his people. You may go.
Chronicles II (35:20-23)

Here we have two completely disparate sources corroborating each other. Is this all propaganda? No previous victor seems to have found it necessary to ingratiate himself to his vanquished subjects. In fact, reigning through terror had sustained the Assyrian empire for over half a millennium. Sustaining his empire through a strategy of peace and tolerance was an enormous risk to Cyrus.

Yet despite the risks, freedom of religion, freedom from servitude and the right to live where one chooses were guaranteed for the first time in writing. They may not be as well defined as the U.S. Bill Of Rights or the Magna Carta, but after six centuries of Assyrian and Babylonian rule, the decrees enshrined on this cylinder were no less groundbreaking.

Mr. Schulz considers those who appreciate Cyrus’s impact on world history as belonging to “the Cyrus cult.” But this cult boasts an impressive roster. Some of history’s greatest leaders, from Julius Caesar to Thomas Jefferson, studied Cyrus. In fact Cyrus may well be the inspiration behind the Western concept of ‘separation between church and state.’

Dr. Richard Frye, the foremost expert on ancient Persia believes, that Cyrus’s tolerant policies could have only taken root in the world’s first secular government:

“The most important thing about Cyrus and the Achaemenid empire was the spread of secular law all over the empire. Before this time, law was based on religion, local religion of the Babylonians, or the Hebrews, or the Egyptians. But now, for the first time in history, you have secular law. In my opinion, the continuation of Roman law is based upon Achaemenid law.”
(Dr. Richard Frye, Harvard University)

In fairness to Mr. Schulz, he got one thing right. Cyrus was no humanist. He was a conqueror. But he was a humane conqueror - an oxymoron best explained by the world’s leading expert on Cyrus The Great, Dr. David Stronach:

“For the first time, on a very wide scale, Cyrus used great force to protect, not degrade, the human condition.”
(Dr. David Stronach, U.C. Berkeley)

Cyrus influenced heads of state as recently as 1948 when President Harry Truman based his decision to support the state of Israel in large part on his reading of Cyrus. When introduced once as “the man who helped create the state of Israel,” Truman is said to have quipped, “What do you mean ‘helped create’? I am Cyrus! I am Cyrus!

By publishing Mr. Schulz’s article, Spiegel Magazine showed a flagrant disregard for the basic standards of responsible journalism. Spiegel owes its readers truth in reporting. Instead it passed off an uninformed opinion as news. The truth is owed a retraction or at the very least an impartial follow-up article based on evidence and qualified experts.

Mr. Schulz’s article closes with the following proverb: “A fool may throw a stone into a well which a hundred wise men cannot pull out.” But it seems the only one throwing stones, is Mr. Schulz.

Cyrus Kar


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 12:50 am    Post subject: Response to Spiegel Magazine’s Attack on the Legacy of Cyrus Reply with quote




Source 2 URL: http://www.savepasargad.com/~New-050508/01.General-News/Newss-Pages/kaveh%20farrokh.htm

Response to Spiegel Magazine’s Attack on the Legacy of Cyrus the Great

Source 1 URL: http://kavad.netfirms.com/articles/spiegel_cyrus.html

Scholar Professor Kaveh Farrokh wrote:
Greetings to All,

As you may recall, Spiegel Magazine recently posted a revisionist view of the history of Cyrus the Great:

Falling for Ancient Propaganda: UN Treasure Honors Persian Despot

By Matthias Schulz (Matthias_Schulz@spiegel.de)

http://www.spiegel.de/spiegel/0,1518,564395,00.html (German)

http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,566027,00.html (English)

I have written a humble retort to that Spiegel essay:

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Response to Spiegel Magazine’s Attack on the Legacy of Cyrus the Great

http://kavad.netfirms.com/articles/spiegel_cyrus.html

Please feel to comment and/or distribute.

Best Regards

Kaveh Farrokh



ActivistChat wrote:


In the name of Cyrus The Great the greatest leader of wisdom, virtue and liberator of all time throughout human history who the Iranians called him as The Father, the Babylonians as The Liberator, the Greeks as the Law-Giver, and the Jews as the Anointed of the Lord and his name appears twenty two times in the Bible. According to Prof. Richard Frye from Harvard University “surely the concept of One World, .... the fusion of peoples and cultures in one 'Oecumen' was one of their important legacies”. Liberated Babylon; freed over 42,000 Jews from captivity; rejected slavery, declared the first human rights charter; and ruled over those he had liberated with respect and benevolence over 2500 years ago. According to recent research finding by Iranian-American scholar Mr. Cyrus Kar the Cyropaedia of Xenophon book was the required reading for our American Revolutionary Founding Fathers. The drafting the Declaration of Independence and US Constitution was influenced by Cyrus The Great leadership and vision. For further detail regarding these facts please watch preview of documentary by Cyrus Kar from http://www.spentaproductions.com



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Title: Shadows in the Desert: Ancient Persia at War

Publisher: Osprey Publishing, Oxford
Date: 2007
ISBN: 9781 8460 31083
Information: http://kavad.netfirms.com/books.html


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 12:53 am    Post subject: Retort to the Daily Telegraph's article against Cyrus the G Reply with quote

Retort to the Daily Telegraph's article against Cyrus the Great By Professor Kaveh Farokh

http://www.savepasargad.com/~New-050508/01.General-News/Newss-Pages/Professor%20Kaveh%20Farokh-E.htm


will be appearing live on the Voice of America-Persian TV channel program entitled:Meezgerdee ba Shoma20(A Roundtable with You): East Coast time: 1:30 p.m-2:30 p.mWest Coast (LA & Vancouver) Time: 10:30-11:30 a.m.Tehran time: 10:00 p.m – 11:00 p.m.
Internet: http://www.voanews.com/persian/_-roundtable.cfm
click on WATCH LIVE (or later from the weekly archives) The program will mainly concern the retort I recently sent against Spiegel Magazine’s false portrayal=2 0of Cyrus the Great: Response to Spiegel Magazine’s Attack on the Legacy of Cyrus the Great
http://www.savepasargad.com/~New-050508/01.General-News/Newss-Pages/kaveh%20farrokh.htm (Pasargard Heritage Foundation)
http://shahrbaraz.blogspot.com/2008/07/blog-post_23.html (Persian summary)
http://www.iranshenakht.blogspot.com (Persian)

The Daily Telegraph in England has also written a very negative commentary against Cyrus the Great which is more strongly worded than the Spiegel article; I have written a very detailed retort against that article:
Retort to the Daily Telegraph’s article against Cyrus the Great
http://www.savepasargad.com/~New-050508/01.General-News/Newss-Pages/Professor%20Kaveh%20Farokh-E.htm (Pasargard Heritage Foundation)http://www.azargoshnasp.net/Pasokhbehanirani/kavehcyrusresponse.pdf (Azargoshnasp - in pdf)
I am obliged to tell you that the Daily Telegraph article is far more vicious and venomous in its attacks against not only Cyrus the Great, but the legacy of the Iranian people and their history in world civilization. I ask that you please read and distribute this retort against the Daily Telegraph as widely and as quickly as possible.
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Dr. Kaveh Farrokh (PhD) Historian
– University of British Columbia Continuing Studies DivisionMember of Stanford University’s WAIS (World Association of International Studies)Advisor of Iranian Studies for The Society of Hellenic-Iranian StudiesDirector of the Archaeological Department of the Pasargard Preservation FoundationMember of the Iranian-Canadian CongressMember of Iran Linguistics SocietyMember of Persian Gulf Preservation Society
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 12:55 am    Post subject: Response to Speigel By Toofaan Reply with quote

Toofaan wrote:
I submitted my detailed response to Speigel regarding the article by Mr. Schulz to be posted in feedback forum in two parts and here is what I wrote:



Der Speigel, Mr. Schulz,

In a recent article published in your magazine on 7/15/2008, you argued that Cyrus the Great who ruled Persian Empire around 600 BC, was a violent ruler who did not deserve to be credited for what is recognized as foundation and first declaration of human rights in the history of mankind. You argued that Cyrus attacked different places and killed many even the prisoners. There are many strange claims in your article while you fail to provide least evidence to back them up. Moreover, your reference to many events and places which you have named in the article, indicate that you are applying a very unorthodox methodology to review the history which have no compatibility with the subject.

First of all, let’s start with the title of your article which includes words “ancient propaganda”. It is totally unclear what can be considered “ancient propaganda” according to your claim. “Propaganda” as we know it, has never been around more than a couple of centuries and it was invented by Romans. Written historical tablets or documents in ancient times are the source of all the knowledge that we have about activities of people in those times. They could not be considered “propaganda” because they were never used to convince masses of following certain path or accepting certain ideas. They provided information about some rules and events and which were set in place or had happened for future reference. They did not propagate anything. That is what propaganda does.

You then start your article by immediately claiming Cyrus was a despot according to “researchers”, while failing to provide any name from those “researchers” other than Josef Wiesehöfer and a single book throughout the article which you don’t even mention its name. Then you continue with some statements about late Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, the former monarch of Iran, to create a hate atmosphere through giving details about a party which apparently has inflicted a deep scar somewhere that could not easily go away. Your total ignorance and disregard towards the historical facts about Iran in the past and present is evident in there basically because those statements could not be viewed as anything but propaganda cliché which has been in circulation for certain reasons and by certain groups.

After expressing your own bitterness towards the action taken by UN secretary general you then bring this quote from Josef Wiesehöfer who says: "The notion that Cyrus introduced concepts of human rights is nonsense.". Strangely enough, even though you mention the name of Assyriologist Hanspeter Schaudig who, according to you, states: “…he too would be hard-pressed to see the ancient king as a pioneer when it comes to equality and human dignity. Indeed, Cyrus demanded that his subjects kiss his feet.” But you fail to provide any substantial backing for such views other than quoting some baseless claims which lack any research value and could not be considered anything other than personal views which have been expressed in unscholarly manner without any foundation. This is how you came to your conclusions in claiming that the cuneiform cylinder which bears the most important document about declaration of basic human rights by Cyrus the Great as “ancient propaganda”. Making such claim alone is enough to discredit the person who brings that up. How could documenting the orders of a king as a reference for carrying out the rules be considered “propaganda”? If he was a “pragmatic” ruler as you mentioned and he freed enslaved people then how this declaration could be considered “propaganda” even if no ordinary people was aware of it other than through his “actions”? What benefit an emperor can gain by freeing some powerless slaves after he conquered the nation which kept them in slavery? Where was the “carrot” and, what was the “stick” there? Propaganda is what Germans and Nazis did in the years after WWI to prepare the atmosphere for their genocidal treatment of others and start of another devastating war to satisfy their own ego based on supremacy of their own race. I will get to it later.

One of the most interesting aspects of your article is application of 20th century standards to the events which belong to more than 2500 years ago and judging those events based on 20th century’s concepts and scales. It may be true that some other people were also concerned about the basic rights of other human beings but no one had put that in writing to make it a universal rule for people of an empire. I challenge you to provide any such document which could be compared with declaration of basic human rights by Cyrus the Great and also predates that document.

In your article, you then bring the name of Art historian Klaus Gallas who apparently is preparing a German-Iranian cultural festival for next summer, very possibly with the help of Islamic government of Iran which has proved its animosity towards Iranian pre-Islamic history and artifacts in many ways throughout the last 29 years and, even submerged a vast historical area under water in vicinity of Pasargad, where Cyrus’s tomb is located. According to your writings, Gallas has said that “The UN made a serious mistake," which apparently is pointing to acceptance of the Cyrus’s declaration by UN as first known document in the history of mankind on human rights. No indication on why a “serious mistake”? You apparently point to a “forged translation” of historical document without providing any source and without bringing the original document and a “true translation” of the document to prove your point. It is completely obvious that your article has been written to trash some historical facts which for some reasons that I will explain later. In your article, you preferred to resort to unfounded claims and innuendo rather than speaking of proven and established facts to do that.

Your characterization of Cyrus as “son of an insignificant king” and passing quickly over the matters like freeing enslaved Jews by the civilization which you apparently are very fond of and, the comments made by Greek historian, Herodotus, are all indications of following certain agenda to put down one of most valuable historical figures of ancient times. You not only deny the value of one of most important documents in the history of mankind, but also ignore that Cyrus is one of few human beings whose names have been praised and mentioned with respect in Bible for his humanitarian treatment of oppressed and enslaved people. Cyrus was one of greatest humanitarian leaders in the history of mankind and all true Iranians are proud of his name and his achievements which he gained 2500 years ago while Germans are rightfully still ashamed of the actions of leaders that were produced in their society just a few decades ago.

Your description of “Greek civilized colonies” one more time reminds me of the nonsense which was given to people in a movie called 300 not very long ago. This is a historical argument that you could not win by making nice looking statements to satisfy your own wishes of superiority. There is ample amount of historical evidences to prove that uncivilized behavior of intruders in farthest part of Persian Empire, including Asia Minor, has been reason for many actions taken by Persian ancient rulers to protect their own people and territory against uncivilized aggressors. This rule applied everywhere in the world in those times and I don’t intend to get into details of that at this time.

You wrote:
“Some Greeks praised the conqueror. Herodotus and Aeschylus (who lived after Cyrus's death) called him merciful. The Bible describes him as the "anointed one," because he supposedly permitted the abducted Jews to return to Israel. But modern historians have long since debunked such reports as flattery. "A shining image of Cyrus was created in antiquity," Wiesehöfer says. In truth, he was a violent ruler, like many others. His army ransacked residential neighborhoods and holy sites, and the urban elites were deported.”
And apparently, for Herodotus and Aeschylus it is very important to mention that they “lived after Cyrus’s death” but it does not matter if Wiesehöfer lives 2500 years after Cyrus just because the author likes his argument and agrees with it even though no real evidence is provided! Something that I found interesting in your article is that you mention the name of places like Afghanistan and Israel when referring to actions of Cyrus. Out of respect for readers, it would worth mentioning that these are the names which were assigned to certain territories in very recent past and do not have an ancient historical background.
From that point on, your story telling talent shines through a few more biased and unfounded statements to come up with your shiny conclusion:
“In truth, Cyrus merely freed his own followers. In compensation for their treacherous services, the priests were given money and estates. In return, they praised Cyrus as a "great" and "just" man and as someone who "saved the entire world from hardship and distress."”

And it is unclear that if Cyrus’s followers were in prison then how could they provide any service and assist him in the attack?! A lot more could be said/written about these strange claims but for those who are interested in knowing some facts, I would recommend reading the article by a true historian, Dr. Kaveh Farokh here:
http://www.savepasargad.com/~New-050508/01.General-News/Newss-Pages/kaveh%20farrokh.htm
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 2:49 pm    Post subject: Asking for help from the people of the world to save Pasarga Reply with quote

Orchestrated Attack Connected Dots Against Cyrus The Great By Top Taazi Thugs, Islamist Mafia and ....

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Asking for help from the people of the world to save Pasargad

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http://www.savepasargad.com/~New-050508/03.Pasargad/Pasargad-Pages/Asking%20for%20help.htm

The irresponsible, irrational and unjust behavior of Islamic regime of Iran not only has brought about the worst problems and calamities to the Iranian people, but has also caused some other states and nations to believe that Iranians are a violent and adventurous people. It seems that this very notion is – both directly and indirectly - the root of ignoring Iranians’ cultural and legal interests that, according to international laws, deserve to be protected by international institutions.

One of the irresponsible actions of the Islamic regime is its ignoring the intentional plight of archeological sites and monuments that either belong to the pre-Islamic period of Iranian history or are related to religions other than Islam.

Upon the provisions of Human Rights Charter and the 1972 Convention for preservation of national and world heritage, we - a group of people interested in the cultural heritage of the world - have gathered together in the International Committee to Save the Archeological Sites of the Pasargad Plains, and with the collaboration of numerous interested groups and societies both inside and outside of Iran, are endeavoring to salvage some of humanity’s cultural heritage. In several occasions we have written to Human Rights institutions, as well as the UNESCO, documenting our claims with pictures and reports prepared by specialists and experts, while explaining the ever-increasing pace of this destructive trend in Iran.

The most important endangered Iranian monument and site is the mausoleum of Cyrus the Great who, all through the history, has been considered as an important world political leader who championed the equality of people in the eye of the law and the prevalence of peace amongst the nations. He is the first one who, according to the accounts of the majority of the world archeologists and historians, declared and sanctified what we label today as Human Rights, 2500 years ago.
The threat to his mausoleum comes from a dam – called Sivand – that has been constructed in the vicinity of this archeological site and is ruining it through elevating the humidity as well as the sub-terrain waters.

Unfortunately, it is not only the Islamic regime that has ignored all the warnings and has actually intensified the operation of the dam. UNESCO has also chosen to be silent in the face of this imminent danger.

The physical destruction of this monument has now been coincided with an orchestrated attack by the Islamic regime against Cyrus himself – an attack that is now being intensified by the articles written and published by two European periodicals. Although such biased articles have received due response from historians and experts, it is obvious that this two-tongued attacks are aiming the most revered and proud moment of Iranian pre-Islamic history that represents a rational and humane culture, far from atrocities of the ancient world and searching for world peace, harmony and co-existence of humans, regardless of their races or religious affiliations.

We have now actually entered a critical phase, when the reports of experts and engineers, as well as the pictures taken from Cyrus’s resting place vividly manifest the immediacy and seriousness of the dangers foreseen since long time ago by all interested parties.

Ladies and gentlemen!
We are seeking your help to salvage an ancient site that is registered by international authorities as a part of human heritage. We need the help of every one of you to put pressure on your local branches of UNESCO and other institutions responsible for the preservation of human heritage, asking them to act upon their assumed responsibilities and do not let political intentions hinder their efforts to stop yet another destruction of ancient treasures just like what Taliban of Afghanistan did to the Buddha’s statutes.
With thanks and anticipation
On behalf of ICSP
Shokooh Mirzadegi
August 07, 2008


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In the period that symbol of power and strength to exert Pyramid Cyrus Tomb is very simple and had great message for deaf hears …
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 11:59 am    Post subject: The good monarch Thread Discussion Reply with quote

The good monarch Thread Discussion From Iranian.com

http://www.iranian.com/main/2008/good-monarch

iranian.com Excellent Thread Discussion wrote:




http://www.iranian.com/main/2008/good-monarch

Great response to morons who
by Not Anonymous (not verified) on Fri Aug 08, 2008 11:32 AM CDT

Great response to morons who try to rewrite history to make a few bucks.

How's your movie coming along Mr. Kar?



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What a fantastic article by Mr. Kar.
by Nader on Fri Aug 08, 2008 10:20 AM CDT


Thank you so much for an eye opening and informative read. I guess certain individuals/interest groups/pseudo journalists will go to any length to discredit us on everything. I don't know which one is worst. The 2nd Arab invasion of our land or the recent campaign to erase our history by Zionists!?

We should fight them both!



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All wars are dirty!
by choghok on Fri Aug 08, 2008 09:02 AM CDT


If there is something history has shown us is that war is an ugly thing. So even if Cyrus was a nice guy really, his decisions has led to deaths of many people. We should not glorify that. Also we should not take a piece of mythologic book (Bible) as a measure for how muchgood someone was

Old testamente is nothing more than Shahnameh of Jewish people. The only difference between those books is that Ferdowsi did not say to be a prophet.

But we should be proud of Cyrus accomplishments as a leader in history. He brought peace in a big region that had chaos before him. And he united many tribes and laid ground for our country

He was no angle and definitly no devil

/Bidar bash ke ma bekhabim



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Development is Humane
by manesh on Fri Aug 08, 2008 08:19 AM CDT


"...In Persia first arises that light which shines itself and illuminates what is around... The principle of development begins with the history of Persia; this constitutes therefore the begining of history."
Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel

That's Hagel talking, the Father of Western philosophy and Dr. Shulz' countryman. The idea of using government power and tax payer money for development and technology (agriculture, in this case) was a monumental step for humanity.



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Racists Undertone in Speigel Article
by manesh on Fri Aug 08, 2008 08:12 AM CDT


Not only Dr. Shulz is inaccurate, there are racists allusions in his writing. One is:

"Those sentenced to death were buried up to their heads in sand,..."

"sand" is code word for everything Middle Eastern and Islamic. The landscape of even mountainous places like Afghanistan and Iran is imagined to be all sand in the mind's eyes of prejiduced Westerners.

The other is:

'Indeed, the UN Information Service in Vienna continues to insist that many still consider the cuneiform cylinder from the Orient to be the "first human rights document."'

"The Orient" is a derogatory term from the 19th century basically meaning the un-civilized people of the East. It was believed at the time that "the Oriental" was incapable of deciding for himself and needed a European, an "occidental" to run his affairs; the argument for colonialism. Dr. Shulz' use in this instance is a mockery that anything good or "humane" could come from the Orient. All good things, by his definition, must come from the occident.



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Donate to Cyrus' Project
by manesh on Fri Aug 08, 2008 07:53 AM CDT


I have and will again. Nobody else is going to teach the world about Cyrus.

http://www.spentaproductions.com/



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Thank You!
by samsam1111 on Fri Aug 08, 2008 07:11 AM CDT


May the old flame never go out.Cyrus legacy is infinite, timeless & a beacon of light for the lost generations.



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Nefarious agenda
by Fred on Fri Aug 08, 2008 06:30 AM CDT


The numnuts in Iraq accused, detained and ill-treated Cyrus Kar on now proven to be bogus charges of terrorism. He sure does a fine job on the revisionist pseudo-historians with nefarious agendas.



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Amazing
by ThePope on Fri Aug 08, 2008 04:57 AM CDT


Mr. Cyrus kar, thank you for this great article and information.

God's instrument, Koorosh-e Kabir, is mentioned MORE than 23 times in the Bible... by name (23 times) or "character". He is also mentioned 16 times in the Quran as the one with two hornes (zol gharneyn). In the bible too, book of Daniel (Cool, "the two horned" is known as him or his kingdom (there was lots of two horn figures in ancient Persia...). Btw, six Persian Kings are mentioned in the Bible...

PS: arabs just don't like the fact that the "two horned" character in the Quran is Cyrus, the Great Persian King.



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Sag OO Konad
by Aziz (not verified) on Fri Aug 08, 2008 01:38 AM CDT


Cyrus is the only King in history (as far as I Know)that has been praised by God's own words. (23 times)

Isaiah 45, Daniel, Ezra 1-3

That should do to safeguard his reputation. Let the German scholar bark at the moon.



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Spiegel is turning to a History Tabloid!
by 135 (not verified) on Fri Aug 08, 2008 12:42 AM CDT


The guy is either an obsessive-compulsive towards attention or earning his living by selling historical and intellectual gossips.

Check the following:

"Der Spiegel Raises Doubts About Whether "Artemis" is Ancient" :
http://www.artsjournal.com/culturegrrl/2008/01/der...

And Matthias himself:
http://sitemason.vanderbilt.edu/site/hwWjN6



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Cyrus, thank you and what a beautiful and well deserving name
by TBL (not verified) on Thu Aug 07, 2008 11:25 PM CDT


you have. Thanks for great and timely reply. This article is well constructed and I find it very enlightening as well.

Cryus is our joy and pride. I long for the day to see your movie.

http://www.spentaproductions.com/



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Fantastic article
by Zion on Thu Aug 07, 2008 10:35 PM CDT


Dear Mr. Kar, this was a great and very well informed article. It was a pleasure reading it. Thanks for your contribution. Your first name is very becoming of you.



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Thank you
by David ET on Thu Aug 07, 2008 09:45 PM CDT


for the educational and responsible article. Looking forward to the film to come...



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Do you see what this guy is doing?
by hazratee on Thu Aug 07, 2008 09:26 PM CDT


That is why we are who we are for generations and where we are today. Human being has dignity and no one on this earth is worthy enough for someone to denigrate his or her dignity for. A vicious cycle of self humiliation that goes on with no end in sight.


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Petition 60: Boycott SPIEGEL and ENGLISH DAILY TELEGRAPH For LIES and UNFOUNDED ATTACK on the LEGACY of CYRUS the GREAT

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To: Freedom-Loving People Of The World, United Nations, People Of Germany , People Of UK , Iranians Worldwide, German Magazine Spiegel, English Daily Telegraph


Recently, the well-known German magazine, Spiegel, followed by the English Daily Telegraph, didn't offer a single shred of historical evidence when they launched their unbridled barrage of attacks on the legacy of the benevolent king Cyrus the Great who is universally regarded as one of the most tolerant historical figures to ever rule.

Spiegel Magazine repeatedly claims that the notion of Cyrus having been a defender of Human Rights is a "hoax that the UN had fallen for." Spiegel Magazine's deception and misleading accusations is reminiscent of another formidable enemy of Cyrus the Great, the Islamic Republic of Iran.

In 1906, a formal English translation of Xenophon's story about Cyrus the Great's military campaigns was published. Xenophon, along with many other ancient sources regarded Cyrus the Great as a wise and benevolent leader who founded the Persian Empire, conquered Babylon; freed over 100,000 Jews from captivity; wrote mankind's first human rights charter; and ruled over his subjects with fairness and with justice.

According to historian Will Durant, Cyrus the Great's military enemies knew that he was lenient, and they did not fight him with that desperate courage which men show when their only choice is "to kill or die." As a result the Iranians regarded him as their "Father," the Babylonians as their "Liberator," the Greeks as a "Law-Giver," and the Jews as their "Messiah."

The Hebrew Bible mentions Cyrus the Great 23 times. In the Book of Isaiah, God calls Cyrus his "anointed one," messiah in Hebrew. "I call you by name," the text says. "I hail you by title." Cyrus is the only gentile in the Hebrew Bible to have earned such a distinction.

The Cyrus cylinder was discovered in 1879 by the Assyro-British archaeologist Hormuzd Rassam in the foundations of the Esagila (i.e., the Marduk temple of Babylon) and is kept today in the British Museum in London. The cylinder describes the Great King not as a conqueror, but as a liberator and the legitimate successor to the crown of Mesopotamia. Cyrus seems to have had no desire to force his new subjects into a single Persian identity, and had the wisdom to leave intact the functioning institutions of each kingdom he attached to the Imperial Crown.

Iranians worldwide are deeply offended by the baseless desecration of the founding father of Iran. We demand of Spiegel and English Daily Telegraph, in the strongest possible terms, an immediate apology, and an immediate retraction or a follow-up article based on real scholarship, real science and real experts in the field of Near Eastern history. We hope that this notice will suffice and obviate the need for further discussion.

References:
[1] Response to Spiegel Magazine's Attack on the Legacy of Cyrus the Great By Greek Scholar Professor Kaveh Farokh
http://www.savepasargad.com/~New-050508/01.General-News/Newss-Pages/kaveh%20farrokh.htm
[2] The Truth Behind Spiegel’s Article By American Documentary Film Maker and Expert Cyrus Kar
http://activistchat.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=8812
[3] Spenta Productions Documentary Film Preview- In Search of Cyrus the Great
http://www.spentaproductions.com/help_cyrus.htm
[4] English Translation Of The Cyrus Cylinder:
http://www.kchanson.com/ANCDOCS/meso/cyrus.html
[5] German Translation: Kommentar: Prof. Dr. Kaveh Farrokh antwortet Spiegel
http://www.savepasargad.com/~New-050508/03.Pasargad/Pasargad-Pages/Dr.%20Kaveh%20Farrokh%20antwortet%20Spiegel.htm


Sincerely,



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103. Mike Larson
phrase "yellow journalism" comes to mind
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What is Yellow Journalism?

http://library.thinkquest.org/C0111500/spanamer/yellow.htm

Yellow journalism, in short, is biased opinion masquerading as objective fact. Moreover, the practice of yellow journalism involved sensationalism, distorted stories, and misleading images for the sole purpose of boosting newspaper sales and exciting public opinion. It was particularly indicative of two papers founded and popularized in the late 19th century- The New York World, run by Joseph Pulitzer and The New York Journal, run by William Randolph Hearst.

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406. Homa Ehsan
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398. Sammy Bhiwandiwalla
Chairman Of World Zoroastrian Organisation
UK


594. Maneck Bhujwala
Cyrus the Great believed in one Supreme God, Ahuramazda (Wise Lord), the name coined by pre-Islamic Iranian Prophet Zarathushtra, more than 4000 years ago. Cyrus followed the teachings of Zarathushtra to be a good and wise ruler of all his subjects. Some western countries who want to attack Iran and its current Islamic regime are mounting a propaganda campaign to portray the great Iranian kings and people of ancient Iran as evil monsters to justify their goal of destroying Iran. People of all faiths should speak up against these lies and smear campaigns, especially Jews all over the world, whose ancestors were liberated by the good king Cyrus from slavery in Babylon, and who were promised money to rebuild their temple in their traditional homeland.
Co-founder Zoroastrian Associations of California
USA


651. Cesare Lancioni
I am fed up with such eurocentric prejudices. Der Spiegel & The Daily Telegraph should put their journalists' intellectual faculties, if any, to a better use. Since my primary school days, I was taught that the Western world is better than the Eastern World. I cannot bear this racist non-sense ANY MORE!
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Must Watch Video Pasargad e Man (Persian Lyrics and Music)
This Video Clip Created By Shahram Feradonei
A Gift To Save Pasargad

- Song called "Katibeh" Lyrics by Ms. Shokooh Mirzadegi Lead vocals and narration by Peyman Montazemi Composed, orchestrated and performed by Peyman Montazemi Arranged by Mehdi Montazemi and Peyman Montazemi Recorded.

- Paintings From Salehzadeh and others ..


cyrus wrote:
Petition 60: Boycott SPIEGEL and ENGLISH DAILY TELEGRAPH For LIES and UNFOUNDED ATTACK on the LEGACY of CYRUS the GREAT

Sign the Petition -
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http://www.petitiononline.com/achat60/petition.html



To: Freedom-Loving People Of The World, United Nations, People Of Germany , People Of UK , Iranians Worldwide, German Magazine Spiegel, English Daily Telegraph


Recently, the well-known German magazine, Spiegel, followed by the English Daily Telegraph, didn't offer a single shred of historical evidence when they launched their unbridled barrage of attacks on the legacy of the benevolent king Cyrus the Great who is universally regarded as one of the most tolerant historical figures to ever rule.

Spiegel Magazine repeatedly claims that the notion of Cyrus having been a defender of Human Rights is a "hoax that the UN had fallen for." Spiegel Magazine's deception and misleading accusations is reminiscent of another formidable enemy of Cyrus the Great, the Islamic Republic of Iran.

In 1906, a formal English translation of Xenophon's story about Cyrus the Great's military campaigns was published. Xenophon, along with many other ancient sources regarded Cyrus the Great as a wise and benevolent leader who founded the Persian Empire, conquered Babylon; freed over 100,000 Jews from captivity; wrote mankind's first human rights charter; and ruled over his subjects with fairness and with justice.

According to historian Will Durant, Cyrus the Great's military enemies knew that he was lenient, and they did not fight him with that desperate courage which men show when their only choice is "to kill or die." As a result the Iranians regarded him as their "Father," the Babylonians as their "Liberator," the Greeks as a "Law-Giver," and the Jews as their "Messiah."

The Hebrew Bible mentions Cyrus the Great 23 times. In the Book of Isaiah, God calls Cyrus his "anointed one," messiah in Hebrew. "I call you by name," the text says. "I hail you by title." Cyrus is the only gentile in the Hebrew Bible to have earned such a distinction.

The Cyrus cylinder was discovered in 1879 by the Assyro-British archaeologist Hormuzd Rassam in the foundations of the Esagila (i.e., the Marduk temple of Babylon) and is kept today in the British Museum in London. The cylinder describes the Great King not as a conqueror, but as a liberator and the legitimate successor to the crown of Mesopotamia. Cyrus seems to have had no desire to force his new subjects into a single Persian identity, and had the wisdom to leave intact the functioning institutions of each kingdom he attached to the Imperial Crown.

Iranians worldwide are deeply offended by the baseless desecration of the founding father of Iran. We demand of Spiegel and English Daily Telegraph, in the strongest possible terms, an immediate apology, and an immediate retraction or a follow-up article based on real scholarship, real science and real experts in the field of Near Eastern history. We hope that this notice will suffice and obviate the need for further discussion.

References:
[1] Response to Spiegel Magazine's Attack on the Legacy of Cyrus the Great By Greek Scholar Professor Kaveh Farokh
http://www.savepasargad.com/~New-050508/01.General-News/Newss-Pages/kaveh%20farrokh.htm
[2] The Truth Behind Spiegel’s Article By American Documentary Film Maker and Expert Cyrus Kar
http://activistchat.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=8812
[3] Spenta Productions Documentary Film Preview- In Search of Cyrus the Great
http://www.spentaproductions.com/help_cyrus.htm
[4] English Translation Of The Cyrus Cylinder:
http://www.kchanson.com/ANCDOCS/meso/cyrus.html
[5] German Translation: Kommentar: Prof. Dr. Kaveh Farrokh antwortet Spiegel
http://www.savepasargad.com/~New-050508/03.Pasargad/Pasargad-Pages/Dr.%20Kaveh%20Farrokh%20antwortet%20Spiegel.htm


Sincerely,

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Revised By Cyrus Kar: The Truth Behind Spiegel’s Article

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